BloodWolves Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I know each has their own roles. But if you had to take (or afford) 1 or the other.. which would you take? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354260-warglaives-vs-helverins/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Helverins usually come out on top. The long range, high rate of fire and flat 3 Damage on their guns is utterly savage. Warglaives have thier place for sure, but are harder to utilize. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354260-warglaives-vs-helverins/#findComment-5267716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I disagree for reasons given - they look good on paper though. I do rate the Armigers though for sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354260-warglaives-vs-helverins/#findComment-5267752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I have used both extensively since they have released. The Helverin wins Mathhammer, but I think the Warglaive is better at Warhammer. The Helverin does one thing well- though you will find that S7, AP-1 fails you more often than you'd like. It has nothing to do in Melee and while you have the speed and range to stay out of it, rarely have I found it to play a role in a victory outside of some fantastically lucky rolls on my part or poor rolls on my opponent's part. Which isn't to say, btw, that it is bad- by no means! The Helverin is quite good.The Warglaive just so happens to be more all-around. The ranged firepower isn't as good as the Helverin on average because of higher shots, but the quality of shot (S8, AP-4) is higher, while you have at worst a 50% chance of exceeding damage on a per shot basis over the Helverin. But if it was just about ranged, the Helverin would win. The Warglaive happens to tear apart anything and everything short of heavy vehicles or the very toughest characters in close combat, and has the option of dealing with smaller units of tougher things or a larger squad of medium to light infantry. It isn't amazing in CC; it isn't amazing at range. But it is solid in both arenas.Playstyle determines what helps you most. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354260-warglaives-vs-helverins/#findComment-5267787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Marsh, that's an interesting way of putting it. I'd have to agree with the idea of Math hammer vs Warhammer (I hate math hammer personally). I typically get a lot of mileage out of a Warglaive and find it is actually more flexible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354260-warglaives-vs-helverins/#findComment-5272651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 It really depends on the rest of your army composition. The above posters nailed it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354260-warglaives-vs-helverins/#findComment-5272703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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