HallofStovokor Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I was hoping that this new commissar would be a great new model. After looking at her data sheet, I realized that she kind of sucks. She costs more than a lord commissar, but is inferior in most ways. Her stat lines are: WS 3+ BS 3+ T3 S3 W3 A3 Save 4+. That's a normal commissar with a better armor save. Her melee weapon is objectively worse than what an ordinary commissar can wield. She has a good bolt pistol, but an AP-1 bolt pistol isn't that great. Her special ability would be great if she had an invulnerable save, but getting her into combat to use it is a liability. If she had a 5+ invulnerable save, she'd be worth 35 or maybe 40 points. As it stands, she's too fragile to be useful which kind of sucks. I might still pick her up and play her as a lord commissar instead of being the named character. That's all. I just needed to rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral_80 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 She is completely useless. Even with an invulnerable save, she would be. Overpriced and really hard to exploit that Ld buff bubble in practical terms. Avoid, or just use as a normal (lord) commissar if you like the model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HallofStovokor Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 She is completely useless. Even with an invulnerable save, she would be. Overpriced and really hard to exploit that Ld buff bubble in practical terms. Avoid, or just use as a normal (lord) commissar if you like the model. I think she'd be great if she were a lord commissar with all the stats that come with lord commissars. Her leadership ability would be worth the crappy sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Rules wise, kinda lame. Model wise, cool. I use her as a Lord-Commissar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wassa Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Shes practically useless. You want a Commissar with your infantry squads (debatable now the rules changed, but say theoretically you do). You want to be shooting with your infantry squads rather than in combat (unless Catachans), which makes her aura useless. If you happen to find yourself in combat, then she may be useful, but the enemy will focus attacks on her and she will die first round making her useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrZakalwe Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 She's fine in a Catachan blob list and isn't expensive enough to be a problem elsewhere. I like that the Black Library exclusive model isn't going to be a competitive 'must have' but is instead a flavour piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 It would actually be more annoying if she was really good, "forcing" people to buy an exclusive pricey model. The rules are a little confusing though, not quite sure what they were going for there! Fantastic model that I might get, but I already have a pair of Commissars that I never use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Agreed unfortunately they tried to slot her between a LC and a regular commissar Are ground that doesnt offer any benefit and her sabre is significantly worse than a power sword She is however an awesome looking model and there's no reason you couldn't just play her as a LC with relic power sword Which is probably what I'm going to do although my Artel W commissar is also similarly impressive so I guess I just have options :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HallofStovokor Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 Agreed unfortunately they tried to slot her between a LC and a regular commissar Are ground that doesnt offer any benefit and her sabre is significantly worse than a power sword She is however an awesome looking model and there's no reason you couldn't just play her as a LC with relic power sword Which is probably what I'm going to do although my Artel W commissar is also similarly impressive so I guess I just have options :D That is what I plan to do. It just sucks that they have a new model and her rules suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robofish7591 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I picked her up just because she was a cool model... I didn't even realize that she had her own rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamansky Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Not really a cool model with situatonal rules for unreasonable price both in points and bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domsto Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 She is really bad rulewise. More expensive and worst as a Lord Commissar. I just proxy mine as a Lord Commissar. I expect her to drop around 15 points in the next CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HallofStovokor Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 She is really bad rulewise. More expensive and worst as a Lord Commissar. I just proxy mine as a Lord Commissar. I expect her to drop around 15 points in the next CA. I hope either that or she gets the lord commissar stat line. I want her stats to be as follows: WS 2+ BS 2+ T3 S3 W4 A3 LD 9 SV 4+ with a 5+ invulnerable save. Keep her special rule and war gear. If they do that, she'd be worth 35-40 points. Maybe put her in an HQ slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontakt Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Her sword scabbard is on the wrong hip. Not sure why that bothers me. If I had a reason to even bring a commissar, I'd probably bring one of the 7 that GW has already "forced" upon me through various boxed sets. If I needed another commissar, she'd be a nice addition, even for such a high price, but not using her own rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Titanz0r Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Her sword scabbard is on the wrong hip. Not sure why that bothers me. She also doesn't appear to have a holster for her bolt pistol. I suppose she'd just always have it at the ready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardDaddy Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I like the sculpt. Rules are weak, though quite cool in principal. Commissar inspiring whilst getting stuck into close combat is nice idea (even catachans would respect that...) Guard community has reacted to female figure with a big 'shrug' - which is great. I guess we are so used to treating guard as skinbags holding a weapon we don't really care about the various nuances different skinbags have! Also gaunts book series dealt with it a decade ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzi Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 It is a wicked cool looking model. I bought it to use as a regular Lord Commissar in an upcoming escalation league for cities of death. I'm sad her rules are bleh, but commissars in general are bleh anyway. I'm more upset at the terrible resin quality they use to cast these limited characters. For $35 I expected a bit better product. The sculpt is great and so is the aesthetic, but I spent a lot of time heating and bending her sword and scabbard so they didn't look like bent pasta noodles. Fair amount of gap on some joints too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrZakalwe Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Her sword scabbard is on the wrong hip. Not sure why that bothers me. It's not though - same side draw is perfectly fine (easier in many circumstances). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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