Quick Gnarlmaw question!

[Trollbeard]

Hey guys, I have a quick question about the Feculent Gnarlmaw, it gives a 2+ bonus to cover for nurgle demons within 7”, does this also stack with regular board terrain granting cover?

 

Basically I’m wanting to get the new obliterator models and the master of possession to ally to my Nurgle demons. And have them all sit within the trees aura.

 

If it does stack, then obliterators would get a full 2+ save against Lascannons in cover, making a very difficult target.

 

Am I right on this? Or does the tree supersede the base cover?

 

Thanks!

[Panzer]

Hey guys, I have a quick question about the Feculent Gnarlmaw, it gives a 2+ bonus to cover for nurgle demons within 7”, does this also stack with regular board terrain granting cover?

 

Basically I’m wanting to get the new obliterator models and the master of possession to ally to my Nurgle demons. And have them all sit within the trees aura.

 

If it does stack, then obliterators would get a full 2+ save against Lascannons in cover, making a very difficult target.

 

Am I right on this? Or does the tree supersede the base cover?

 

Thanks!

 

Alright, lets check the wording. Shroud of Flies says "[...] receive the benefit of cover, but you add 2 to their saving throws instead of 1 [...]". The important part here is the little word "instead". So you simply add +2 to armour saves instead of the usual +1 and that's it. A Nurgle Daemon unit with a 6+ save will have a 4+ save (unless the opponent ignores cover) and so on.

 

Obliterators which are completely within 7" of the Gnarlmaw will have a 0+ armour save so against the AP-3 of a Lascannon you'll have to roll a 3+. Still extremely strong. The difficulty will be to fit them completely within 7" of a Gnarlmaw considering how big their new bases are.

[Trollbeard]

Ah thanks for that, couldn’t check myself as

I’m at work, but still very strong! I was planning in running 3x 1 obliterator units, so it shouldn’t be a

Big problem having them within range of the tree.

 

My idea is to have a spearhead or oblits and the MoP, and a spearhead Outrider of a DG DP and 3x foetid bloat drones to accompany my main force of demons. And I think the new models look awesome lol.

[Marshlands]

Might be worth considering a large unit too, vets has good synergy with the nurgle loci which presumably you'll have available!

[Trollbeard]

Ooo, I hadn’t even thought about the strats I’ll have available, maybe 1x3 man unit, and 2x 1 man, little more expensive, but a lot more damage output.

 

Interesting to be sure!

[Marshlands]

Yerp, I'm debating going full swing with a GUO with bell too :)

[WickedJester1013]

That’s a whole lot of points for 3-6 oblits. You sure they have enough fire power to make up for the hundreds of points of suppport? Just the tree and GUO run a little under 400 points

[Trollbeard]

I think a GUO with bell might not be needed, if you keep them parked by the tree they wil have really decent saves and staying power. They will either draw a ton of fire, allowing the rest of my force to advance, or they get ignored for a bit.

 

I will test it out once the rules officially drop!

[Marshlands]

The GUO is a liability if they can kill it and only works if you take a bunch of nurgle.

 

The bell can do so some silly things tho with Oblits, beasts of nurgle, the forgeworld toads and riders and most of all blight haulers!

[angrom]

By the way is it possible to summon the tree? Does it actually has the ritual rule?

[DemetriiTZ]

Alas, it does not. It does, however, have the ability to Deepstrike using the Daemon stratagem, but you shouldn't bother -- place it on the edge of your deployment, as you can only use the charge/fall back shenanigans if you begin the turn within 7'' of the tree.

[DeStinyFiSh]

Or use Horticulus, who is unfortunately not very usefull after planting the tree...

[Dallas Drake]

Hey guys, I have a quick question about the Feculent Gnarlmaw, it gives a 2+ bonus to cover for nurgle demons within 7”, does this also stack with regular board terrain granting cover?

 

Basically I’m wanting to get the new obliterator models and the master of possession to ally to my Nurgle demons. And have them all sit within the trees aura.

 

If it does stack, then obliterators would get a full 2+ save against Lascannons in cover, making a very difficult target.

 

Am I right on this? Or does the tree supersede the base cover?

 

Thanks!

 

I've done this tactic and it's legit, basically tabled Astra Militarum by turn 3. the Gnarlmaw has a huge footprint, you can easily fit 6 Oblits (new ones) around it - 7" actually gives you a surprisinly big area. Bring a Nurgle Daemons battalion so you can deep strike the tree for 1CP into the middle of the board but behind your Plaguebearers/Nurglings and ensure your Oblits are positioned centrally to reach most of the board that matters. You'll want to place objectives as close to each other in or close to the centre of the board too so your Oblits guns can cover them. If your opponent has lots of high AP then throw Miasma on a unit so they have a harder time hitting too.

[DemetriiTZ]

Alpha Legion Nurgle-marked (for Miasma) Greater Obliterators with a Dark Apostle chanting the -1 To Hit prayer. -3 To Hit 0+ Save Obliterators under a Tree.

[Trollbeard]

Alpha Legion Nurgle-marked (for Miasma) Greater Obliterators with a Dark Apostle chanting the -1 To Hit prayer. -3 To Hit 0+ Save Obliterators under a Tree.

Is the dark apostle an HQ choice?? Would make a nice spearhead detachment