Space Wolf Suppressors -- Multi-purpose unit

[L30n1d4s]

I am going off the assumption that Suppressors will eventually be able to be fielded in packs of 6 (just like Inceptors, which were only 3 in DI, but now can be taken in squads of 6).

 

That being true, imagine a 6 man pack dropping down turn 2 along with a JP Wolf Lord... use Keen Senses on them, and they will always hit on rerollable 2+s, so 11-12 hits.

 

Against an Eldar (Alaitoc) Hemlock, you get an average of 8 wounds, 5-6 failed armor saves, and 10-12 damage, so enough to kill it in one volley.

 

Against a squad of enemy Primaris, you get 8 wounds, 5-6 failed armor saves, and 5-6 dead models.

 

Against a standard T7 3+ save vehicle, you get about 6 wounds, 4 failed armor saves, and 8 damage... combine with MW from Hellfire Shells and you can kill a standard Razorback/Rhino in one shooting phase.

 

Against a Harlequin Starweaver, you get 8 wounds, 4 failed Invuls, and 8 damage (so the transport killed outright).

 

 

You get the picture here... in terms of surviving themselves, the Suppressors can drop in cover for a 2+ save and can stay up to 48" from their targets, making it very difficult to catch them in melee (and they have Fly for falling back and shooting).

[PeteySödes]

They seem ok for preventing overwatch on some units but for the role your describing id go sicaran battle tank every time. I just don’t see any reason to drop them in like your describing if you’re just trying to kill stuff. Keen sences would be better on long fangs at that point.

 

Edit: I’m also not sure where your getting the hellfire shells? Did they confirm they get heavy bolter onnbox release or something?

[Kallas]

Further, they're only base BS3+, so I'm not sure where you're getting 2s/rr1s from.

[Guest Triszin]

I'm going to magnetize mine.

 

As I am assuming the full kit will have a las talon Cannon as the alt build

[faithonwings]

Lastalon would be a weird one because their special rule would only ever do some work on vehicle's. Since lastalon is a anti tank weapon it would be weird. A heavy bolter or something alike would be a more interesting option.

[Kallas]

Lastalon would be a weird one because their special rule would only ever do some work on vehicle's. Since lastalon is a anti tank weapon it would be weird. A heavy bolter or something alike would be a more interesting option.

Pretty sure a Lastalon is capable of killing infantry to keep them suppressed!

 

Hell, it's got the same rate of fire as an Autocannon!

[PeteySödes]

Why are people latching onto the las talon? I never understand where these rumors come from.

[Splog]

It seems reasonable to suppose that the Suppressors will have an alternative weapon option. I think every Primaris non-character (full) kit to date has had different weapon options.

 

If their second option is something we’ve seen before, I think it more likely to be something like an onslaught gatling cannon. Good range, high rate of fire, and lots of loud throwing slugs ‘down range’ to keep the enemy’s head down. Seems thematic to me.

 

So far we’ve pretty much got bolt, flame, projectile (gatling/autocannons), plasma, grenades, and las-talons. I reckon it’ll be more of the same rather than completely new. Plasma is popular in the Primaris range, so maybe that is an option.

 

I’d quite like to see them with rapid firing grenade launchers. That would be in keeping with the Starship Troopers vibe some are seeing (though I doubt they’ll get nukes).

[Jukkiz]

Why are people latching onto the las talon? I never understand where these rumors come from.

Because people keep thinking this primaris unit is DEVASTATOR of olden days.

 

So they might think multi part kit has all the options.

[PeteySödes]

 

 

Why are people latching onto the las talon? I never understand where these rumors come from.

Because people keep thinking this primaris unit is DEVASTATOR of olden days.

 

So they might think multi part kit has all the options.

Yea, I mean I get it but so often like one person says something like “it’d be cool if” then the romour brigade hits then inevitably are disappointed when it doesn’t match the unreasonable expectation in the first place.

 

I’tll likely have another option I’m sure but still.

[Kallas]

Primaris do already have access to Lastalons on the Repulsor, so it's not particularly far-fetched. It'd also give them an actual high strength weapon for anti-tank duty, rather than relying on overcharged Plasma.

 

Will it happen? *shrug* But it's certainly a reasonable notion.

[PeteySödes]

Primaris do already have access to Lastalons on the Repulsor, so it's not particularly far-fetched. It'd also give them an actual high strength weapon for anti-tank duty, rather than relying on overcharged Plasma.

 

Will it happen? *shrug* But it's certainly a reasonable notion.

 

But they are suppressors....that function seems to fly in the face of for every unit a purpose design of Primaris so far. Im not saying they for sure won't. I guess im just pointing out waste of energy.

[faithonwings]

 

Lastalon would be a weird one because their special rule would only ever do some work on vehicle's. Since lastalon is a anti tank weapon it would be weird. A heavy bolter or something alike would be a more interesting option.

Pretty sure a Lastalon is capable of killing infantry to keep them suppressed!

 

Hell, it's got the same rate of fire as an Autocannon!

 

I'm sure it can. But if you have S9 weapons with high amount of damage, I would hate to shoot at a units of orks boys kill only a handfull. I would much rather shoot it at a Stompa or a battlewagon. (just some random examples.) 

 

Onslaught gatling cannons would be cool. If that would be become a weapon option I would but them for sure. :D

[Kallas]

I have no dog in this race (pun intended!) as I generally dislike Primaris, and Suppressors look super dumb and their rules seem pretty lacklustre to me!

 

Just saying that giving them two or three weapon options like Inceptors seems likely. Onslaught Gatling Cannons would make them very similar to Assault Bolter Inceptors, which means GW are super likely to do that!!

[faithonwings]

I have no dog in this race (pun intended!) as I generally dislike Primaris, and Suppressors look super dumb and their rules seem pretty lacklustre to me!

 

Just saying that giving them two or three weapon options like Inceptors seems likely. Onslaught Gatling Cannons would make them very similar to Assault Bolter Inceptors, which means GW are super likely to do that!!

Point granted. I think most of the primaris are overpriced. Very little is playable as semi-competative (agressors, intercessors and hellblaster, al of them only in certain contextst). I hope the new snipers and librarian (sorry, rune priest) can be ad to that list. We will have to see. 

[CCE1981]

The Onslaught Gatling Cannon would be cool as an option on Suppressors but I don’t see it happening. For a mere 6pts more you end up doubling your wounds at the lower toughness units you would be targeting to prevent overwatch from.