McGirth Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Hi guys, still relatively new to 40k and am getting a bit confused with updated rules. Ive got the rule book that came in D.I and the space marine chapter book. Ive seen references to the vigilus and chapter approved 2018. Do i need both to get all the up to date rules, stratagems etc. Does anyone know of any cheat sheets or pdfs with all the BT related updates. Thanks in advance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354435-bt-updated-rules-etc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolvar Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 If I recall correctly, you'll need the following: -Basic rulebook -Codex: Space Marine -Imperial Armour Index: Forces of the Adeptus Astartes -Chapter approved 2018 -Vigilus book #1 for the sword brethen detachtment -And, until the new troops are centralized in a new book, the shadowspear vanguard codex if you want to field the new units contained in it. I don't know if there's something that I've been missing, but at least for pure BT you should have everything in there. And no, I don't know any cheat sheets, pdfs or another source that I haven't mentioned. Also, another question for this thread: Is chapter approved 2017 required, or everything related to that older book it's included in the 2018 version? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354435-bt-updated-rules-etc/#findComment-5273433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 You don't need 17 really. But battlescribe is the cheapest and easiest way to (almost) guarantee your points costs are accurate. I also use it for Forge World rules as well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354435-bt-updated-rules-etc/#findComment-5273444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I think Bolvar has got all of it in that list. Also just a pre-emptive reminder guys: while a list of the official sources needed for all the BT rule/stratagems is fine, let's take care to stick within the board rules and avoid sharing/linking any direct rules material here! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354435-bt-updated-rules-etc/#findComment-5273554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 -Imperial Armour Index: Forces of the Adeptus Astartes Question: If you are only using GW produced units (vs. Forgeworld), is this necessary? Admittedly, there are things like the Leviathan and other interesting oddities, but only for FW units. Correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354435-bt-updated-rules-etc/#findComment-5273805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolvar Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 If you don't own any units from FW you shouldn't need that book, but why wouldn't you use them? there are some sweet things there Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354435-bt-updated-rules-etc/#findComment-5273820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 What you need; Codex: Space Marine Chapter Approved: 2018 Vigilus 1: Defiant Index 1: Astartes (For Non-Marshall’s Bike Characters, and expanded wargear) FW Index: Astartes (For some expanded options). Associated FAQ’s Mostly you should need Sword Brothern Detachment from Vigilus, our Codex and Chapter Approved. A ‘competitive’ Templar List would beside wanting Leviathan or other niche option would only need those books. Razor lists might pick up the index for space marine but purely speaking you don’t need any. Now I will say, that investing in all 5 indexes is worth the price. Because one you get a preview on the various armies. While you might lose some things from the codexes, the index rules to some degree allow you familiarize yourself somewhat with the other armies units and special abilities Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354435-bt-updated-rules-etc/#findComment-5273889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolvar Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Ah true, the Index 1 for even more options, I forgot about it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354435-bt-updated-rules-etc/#findComment-5273920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 If you don't own any units from FW you shouldn't need that book, but why wouldn't you use them? there are some sweet things there Oh I couldn't agree more <looks over at two Caestus, a Leviathan, and a Prometheus LR> :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354435-bt-updated-rules-etc/#findComment-5274009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolvar Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 *laughs in dornian* Once I fix my economic situation, and hire a painter for all the BT I've already own, I'm looking to buy a stormeagle and a caestus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354435-bt-updated-rules-etc/#findComment-5274385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 and a caestus You will absolutely love this unit. I have a couple of batreps in my thread with them. In particular, "The Battle for Murska Airbase". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354435-bt-updated-rules-etc/#findComment-5274690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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