cravgar Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Hey guys, Just looking at some list options and I was wondering... Me and my friend play casually, he is AM. Is there any benefit choosing points over PL for me? I'm sure its all nicely balanced but thought I would check? I know PL allows upgrades 'for free' but thats about all i know lol :) Thanks Crav Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354499-pl-or-points/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Biggest discrepancy is with the Wolf Guard. Equipping them with SB/SS is very cheap, currently very powerful, but makes no sense to use PL since they factor in the most expensive loadout. Thats my only real experience with it though as my group only tried PL at the onset of 8th and quickly ditched it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354499-pl-or-points/#findComment-5275309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruor Vault Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 PL isn't something GW keeps updated when they change the points costs, so it's not a good reflection on the value of units. I'd also recommend using points as it's a very easy way to have a list prepared if you decide to start playing with people at a store. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354499-pl-or-points/#findComment-5275327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravgar Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 Ok thanks guys Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354499-pl-or-points/#findComment-5275456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 PL does seem best when used with friends for casual games and for teaching games IMO. Totally up to you and your opponent though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354499-pl-or-points/#findComment-5275629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravgar Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 Yeah we’re only casual but I felt like my friend who plays AM would get even more of an advantage but being able to max everything far cheaper or get like his pl scaled better and it also means remaining stuck with the original set of data sheets of which things like my sw have gotten some changes I believe to things like scouts etc and that would not get reflected In PL. We both got a lot to learn still but I’d like to not get stomped every time :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354499-pl-or-points/#findComment-5276176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Don’t be discouraged if he’s wailing in you for a bit. AM are a really well balanced book atm while we have a really fun but not quite as well rounded one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354499-pl-or-points/#findComment-5276311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravgar Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 yeah, i feel like army build is only part of my issues, tactics and deploying myself effectively play a large part. and he is a stickler for everything so if the model is visible by a mm he will find it and shoot at me lol. most of my issues come from trying to be rounded but have the punch vs the armor and dmg spread across the infantry. I think with going points and aiming in that 1500 mark will help, getting faster at playing is required by us though as we're pretty slow.. he is for sure... a turn for him has lasted like an hour at times lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354499-pl-or-points/#findComment-5276343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysquigg Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I've played both types a bunch and everyone has agreed that it's dumb. Everyone playing the bent combos (and proxying I'd like to add) that would usually cost a ton of points. Everything maxed out totally and ridiculous. It's also not at all balanced against other books. Stuff like guard taking these mammoth units tooled up to the 9s and leman russ with every gun imaginable on them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354499-pl-or-points/#findComment-5276375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStabby Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 As said above. PL was more balanced early on, but as points have been errata'd and updated an balanced etc the divide has been getting bigger. I used to be a big proponent of PL games but they are just kinda wonky now and there is a LOT of impetus on the social contract of not being horrible to one another, which... may or may not work out. Especially if you are letting your buddy proxy stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354499-pl-or-points/#findComment-5276390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Yea i also didnt really process how much stuff you can cram onto those Russes initially..... Stay strong brother lol :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354499-pl-or-points/#findComment-5276392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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