Panzer Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 The Assault variant is honestly the last one I'd go for. You lose the extremely valuable S8 and most of the time you wouldn't want to advance them since it would make supercharging them even more dangerous. Just go with the Rapid fire variant if they are supposed to move and the Heavy variant if they are supposed to stay back in some ruins or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354585-hellblasters-any-good/page/2/#findComment-5394178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathstrider Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I agree on not advancing with the assault variant - that's suicide - but I rate them even without that. Only very slightly over the rapid fire variant, but miles ahead of the heavy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354585-hellblasters-any-good/page/2/#findComment-5394328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermintide Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Isn't advancing and firing overcharged just the same as firing regular overcharge? It's a -1 so twos become ones and ones become zeros. Actually I'd feel safer if they overheat on twos. We all know ones are more common than twos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354585-hellblasters-any-good/page/2/#findComment-5394403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klod Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Isn't advancing and firing overcharged just the same as firing regular overcharge? It's a -1 so twos become ones and ones become zeros. Actually I'd feel safer if they overheat on twos. We all know ones are more common than twos Main Rulebook FAQ pg.3: Q: Can a dice roll ever be modified to less than 1? A: No. If, after all modifiers have been applied, a dice roll would be less than 1, count that result as a 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354585-hellblasters-any-good/page/2/#findComment-5394422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermintide Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Isn't advancing and firing overcharged just the same as firing regular overcharge? It's a -1 so twos become ones and ones become zeros. Actually I'd feel safer if they overheat on twos. We all know ones are more common than twos Main Rulebook FAQ pg.3: Q: Can a dice roll ever be modified to less than 1? A: No. If, after all modifiers have been applied, a dice roll would be less than 1, count that result as a 1. Well, I never took the assault variant before, guess I'm never gonna either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354585-hellblasters-any-good/page/2/#findComment-5394495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathstrider Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Using them to advance isn't the reason to take them - it's to get 2 shots at 16" to 24" meaning you can hang back if needed (over the rapid fire variant). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354585-hellblasters-any-good/page/2/#findComment-5394961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 If I want Plasma to hang back I either take the Heavy variant or Plasma on a Redemptor or Repulsor Executioner. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354585-hellblasters-any-good/page/2/#findComment-5394971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermintide Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Using them to advance isn't the reason to take them - it's to get 2 shots at 16" to 24" meaning you can hang back if needed (over the rapid fire variant). True. That's always felt slightly counter intuitive about some assault weapons, Hellblasters probably more than any other due to how the other variants work. I've always stuck with the rapid fire, neither of the upgrades really feel worth their points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354585-hellblasters-any-good/page/2/#findComment-5395062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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