Karack Blackstone Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Hello all. I'm debating trying for a kitbashed Mark 3 Iron Armor jump back, the problem being, I need at least 20 Mark 4 Jump Packs, likely some Mark 2 Jump Packs, and if I do it right, that's 10 Mark 2's, and I will end up with a Jump Pack that MIGHT visually show the overall amount of thrust needed to get a Mark 3 suit of armor and the Marine inside into the air, albeit with a bit of struggle. So, in a nutshell: - 20 Mark 4 JP's - 10 Mark 2 JP's - ??? Some Backpack that can accept a combined weight wise pair of Mark 2 JP's tops with Mark 4 JP's as bottoms = 10 Mark 3 Jump Packs This is going to be expensive, most Mark 4 and Mark 2 JP's don't exist as standalone bits, and, to type it, Raptors and Sanguinary Guard boxes might be a slightly cheaper approach. Might this work? How much is it worth to get this done? I don't even know if it's going to be worthwhile, but it sure as hell will be cool. The rub is, am I just better off wasting my time on something else? I like the idea; I don't have the spare income right now, but in time, maybe I will. Might it be worth it then? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Aren't the CSM Raptor jump packs the mkII-III ones, MkIV is definitely on the Sang guard, those wings are seperate, I bought a unit of those for my bitz box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5286491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKIV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad Mark 4 baseline lacks the wings; the Sang Guard are possibly one of the cheaper alternatives in terms of getting my hands on the Mark 4 JP's themselves. The Mark 2 / 3 JP's don't quite look powerful enough, thus, get 20 Mark 4's, lop off the single nozzle, put it under the Mark 2 JP on each side, maybe get a Backpack like the Mark 7 or Mark 3 and clip the side nozzles, placing the pair of Mark 2 JP's with a single Mark 4 JP nozzle under each of the Mark 2's paired thrusters. Pretty involved, but, might be worth it. I'm just trying to figure out the cost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5286493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryltar Thamior Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 If you're able to find them, via ... whichever means, the old-school CSM raptor packs would presumably be the way to go. They're surprisingly large pieces of kit, and comfortably look more than capable of lifting a Primaris marine or a truescale off the ground, and possibly then some. You should have no aesthetic trouble with them seeming capable of hefting a regular-scale Mk.III marine aloft. Another possibility, I suppose, may be attempting to do something with the Primaris Inceptor jump-pack style things, suitably 30k-ified - although those are likely to be far too large. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5286506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 If you're able to find them, via ... whichever means, the old-school CSM raptor packs would presumably be the way to go. They're surprisingly large pieces of kit, and comfortably look more than capable of lifting a Primaris marine or a truescale off the ground, and possibly then some. You should have no aesthetic trouble with them seeming capable of hefting a regular-scale Mk.III marine aloft. Another possibility, I suppose, may be attempting to do something with the Primaris Inceptor jump-pack style things, suitably 30k-ified - although those are likely to be far too large. although those are likely to be far too large. large Mark 3, and too large a Jump Pack? No such thing! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5286510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imren Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Hello all. I'm debating trying for a kitbashed Mark 3 Iron Armor jump back, the problem being, I need at least 20 Mark 4 Jump Packs, likely some Mark 2 Jump Packs, and if I do it right, that's 10 Mark 2's, and I will end up with a Jump Pack that MIGHT visually show the overall amount of thrust needed to get a Mark 3 suit of armor and the Marine inside into the air, albeit with a bit of struggle. So, in a nutshell: - 20 Mark 4 JP's - 10 Mark 2 JP's - ??? Some Backpack that can accept a combined weight wise pair of Mark 2 JP's tops with Mark 4 JP's as bottoms = 10 Mark 3 Jump Packs This is going to be expensive, most Mark 4 and Mark 2 JP's don't exist as standalone bits, and, to type it, Raptors and Sanguinary Guard boxes might be a slightly cheaper approach. Might this work? How much is it worth to get this done? I don't even know if it's going to be worthwhile, but it sure as hell will be cool. The rub is, am I just better off wasting my time on something else? I like the idea; I don't have the spare income right now, but in time, maybe I will. Might it be worth it then? Check these out: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/popbits?section=--+Jetpacks&s=0 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5286548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I can't imagine what you're describing matching MKIII aesthetically. I reckon do a tester to see if the end result is good before going whole hog with a bunch of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5286572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torvak Kyre Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I’vs used a mix of MKII, MKV and raptor jump packs on some MKIII I smashed together with some reavers. All of them look capable and the mix produces what I think is a nice war weary look to a squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5287898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I just used MKII Jump Packs on my MKIII Destroyers. They look perfectly fine. Also the thing about MKIII being too heavy for Jump Packs was a myth, it was based on a flippant remark by someone from Forgeworld as the reason why MKIII doesn't have any Jump Pack squads. Alan Bligh said they would get around to it eventually, but it's just never been a priority for FW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5290112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I just used MKII Jump Packs on my MKIII Destroyers. They look perfectly fine. Also the thing about MKIII being too heavy for Jump Packs was a myth, it was based on a flippant remark by someone from Forgeworld as the reason why MKIII doesn't have any Jump Pack squads. Alan Bligh said they would get around to it eventually, but it's just never been a priority for FW. Yeah, that's always something that's bugged me. Mark III shouldn't weigh THAT much more than Mark II or Mark IV that jump packs don't work :lol: I mean, these are half-ton dudes. Mark III probably bumps them to just over a half ton. But hey :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5290310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StruManChu Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 In a world where the BA have a Jump Pack Contemptor, MkIII Assault Squads are not an unreasonable thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5291229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Maxmini makes perfect MK2/3 JP https://maxmini.eu/conversion-bits/torsos-and-arms Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5291405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbunneh Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I'd be tempted to use a Mk4 pack with more Thrusters worked into it, or the old Chaos Raptor packs as they look a lot bulkier than Heresy ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5291493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torvak Kyre Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 The pictures aren't great but here's a few of my MKIII reavers with the different jump packs I've used. MKII MKV Raptor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5291522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I've never been a big fan of the argument mark 3 can't use jump packs because its heavier. I'd persoanlly use a Mark 2/5/Raptor pack given their larger mass to work around it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5291538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I like the raptor style backpacks on the Mark III jump guys. Definitely need to look into sourcing those for my Dark Angels :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5291596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 How does one best de-Chaos-ify the Raptor Jump Packs? Those seem like a reasonably cheaper alternative to my plan in the OP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5291825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzender Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 In the link Master Sheol has shared there are some raptor style jump packs, don't know how big they are but it seems they are chaos-free, might be worth checking them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5291829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 Thoughts on the below, please? https://hexy.store/weapons-equipment/1194-jet-pack-x5.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5292216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Would be cool to see op:s suggested idea, two mk.iv jump packs stuck together to another base jump pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5292301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I just used MKII Jump Packs on my MKIII Destroyers. They look perfectly fine. Also the thing about MKIII being too heavy for Jump Packs was a myth, it was based on a flippant remark by someone from Forgeworld as the reason why MKIII doesn't have any Jump Pack squads. Alan Bligh said they would get around to it eventually, but it's just never been a priority for FW. I believe ADB actually talked about that it being a myth as well here on B&C in a thread, if memory serves me right.Also, the Blood Angels Moritat in Master of Mankind, Zephon, uses MkIII armour as well as a jump pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5292310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share Posted April 8, 2019 Thoughts on the below, please? https://hexy.store/weapons-equipment/1194-jet-pack-x5.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5293200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Thoughts on the below, please? https://hexy.store/weapons-equipment/1194-jet-pack-x5.html Superior to a lot of other third party alternatives, but I still think the GW/FW options are a closer match and the better choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5293229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share Posted April 8, 2019 Thoughts on the below, please? https://hexy.store/weapons-equipment/1194-jet-pack-x5.html Superior to a lot of other third party alternatives, but I still think the GW/FW options are a closer match and the better choice. While I do love the idea of the bits discussed in the OP, there's the cost issue. Close enough is good enough-ish, so I have some thinking to do here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5293242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 Thoughts on the below, please? https://hexy.store/weapons-equipment/1194-jet-pack-x5.html Superior to a lot of other third party alternatives, but I still think the GW/FW options are a closer match and the better choice. While I do love the idea of the bits discussed in the OP, there's the cost issue. Close enough is good enough-ish, so I have some thinking to do here. Ordered 10 of the Linked JP's. Once they get in, I will need to see how they look on my 30K Vlka. I will do my best to keep advise, it might be a while before they arrive. Still, just might work as intended. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354876-mark-3-jump-pack-kitbash-im-thinking-it-might-be-worth-it/#findComment-5306128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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