Purge the Daemon Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Aetheric Domain: Maddening Swarm HQ: Ruinstorm Daemon Lord 335 - Flying Monstrous Creature - Lord of Sorcery ×3 - Rift Barb - Warp Scaled Hide - Ephemeral Terror Ruinstorm Greater Daemon 240 - Lord of Sorcery ×2 - Rift Barb - Warp Scaled Hide - Ephemeral Terror Ruinstorm Greater Daemon 240 - Lord of Sorcery ×2 - Rift Barb - Warp Scaled Hide - Ephemeral Terror ELITE: 3 Ruinstorm Daemon Brutes 204 - Daemonic Wings - Warp Scion - Warp Scaled Hide - Crushing Claws 3 Ruinstorm Daemon Brutes 204 - Daemonic Wings - Warp Scion - Warp Scaled Hide - Crushing Claws TROOP: 3 Ruinstorm Daemon Beasts 111 - Rift Barb - Warp Scion - Warp Scaled Hide - Ephemeral Terror 3 Ruinstorm Daemon Beasts 111 - Rift Barb - Warp Scion - Warp Scaled Hide - Ephemeral Terror FAST ATTACK: Ruinstorm Daemon Shrike 190 - Rift Barb - Warp Scaled Hide - Ephemeral Terror Ruinstorm Daemon Shrike 190 - Rift Barb - Warp Scaled Hide - Ephemeral Terror Ruinstorm Daemon Shrike 190 - Rift Barb - Warp Scaled Hide - Ephemeral Terror HEAVY SUPPORT: Ruinstorm Daemon Behemoth 355 - Rift Barb - Warp Scaled Hide - Quicksilver Speed Ruinstorm Daemon Behemoth 355 - Rift Barb - Warp Scaled Hide - Quicksilver Speed Ruinstorm Daemon Behemoth 355 - Rift Barb - Warp Scaled Hide - Quicksilver Speed LORD OF WAR: Ruinstorm Arch-Daemon 900 - Flying Gargantuan Creature - Lord of Chaos - Font of the Warp - Warp Forged Plate Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354902-daemons-of-the-ruinstorm-4000points/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 21 + 1D6 warp changes should potentially allow you to gather VP in accordance with the 'Warp Conflagration' alternate victory conditions. But should you ever need to score an objective due to some reason, the dark gods will laugh in your face. I'm not sure Daemons of the Ruinstorm will scale all too well in games bigger than 3.000 pts. - but this only time will tell. (Subjective view: Looks way too spammy for my tastes.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354902-daemons-of-the-ruinstorm-4000points/#findComment-5287441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purge the Daemon Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 21 + 1D6 warp changes should potentially allow you to gather VP in accordance with the 'Warp Conflagration' alternate victory conditions. But should you ever need to score an objective due to some reason, the dark gods will laugh in your face. I'm not sure Daemons of the Ruinstorm will scale all too well in games bigger than 3.000 pts. - but this only time will tell. (Subjective view: Looks way too spammy for my tastes.) I do mostly agree with you and I think there are a lot of limitations to the list especially as points go up. Warp charges I tried my best to maximize on hq and low and then the 4 extra feel alright I could have more but I have to cast with each unit that generates or they get squashed. Hopefully I can avoid objectives I can still score warlord and such and maybe get some VP from the powers but definetly lacking troops I just wanted to use the other options more as the troops feel really meh to me and I have ideas for the others. 3000+ scaling yeah feels bad the list is really constrained by its slots and the fact nothing actually does anything better and once the other armies have weapons that deal with you at higher points idk what you really do. Its definetly spammy but the daemon list has very few selections and especially in fast attack I think you need triple shrike. But option wise its 3 hq + 3 special characters that cant do "tzeentch" and 1 of those hqs is only for a blob which I didnt take and 1 is a 0-1 choice. 1 elite choice you can only take brutes so there that... 2 fast attack but strikes are the best unit in the list so it feels really bad to not take them. 2 heavy support which feel really similar as they are basically the same thing. Also 1 low but didnt expect more. I did take a lot of the same weapon loadout but grenades and armour feel really important and rift barbs are the only anti tank. I do have modeling ideas for quite a few of the things. Archaons dragon for lord of ruinstorm Carmine dragon / warpfire for greater daemons Brutes undecided Beasts undecided The lotr mini balrog for shrike (really small base size compared to greater daemons) Magmadroths for behemoths Oop chaos emperor dragon for archdaemon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354902-daemons-of-the-ruinstorm-4000points/#findComment-5287673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argel Tal Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Do you think the lesser daemons are bad? For 22 each you can get the rending and 3+ armor with 4 a on charge with the fury émanation so 330 t'for 15 guys Will need some testing to check if it's worth it Beats sounds good for mobile av like the shrike Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354902-daemons-of-the-ruinstorm-4000points/#findComment-5294918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purge the Daemon Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 Do you think the lesser daemons are bad? For 22 each you can get the rending and 3+ armor with 4 a on charge with the fury émanation so 330 t'for 15 guys Will need some testing to check if it's worth it Beats sounds good for mobile av like the shrike That's also still 22 points and you've got no guns and might not be able to fight by turn 3 even since you arent guaranteed to come in turn 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354902-daemons-of-the-ruinstorm-4000points/#findComment-5295046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argel Tal Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Yes but t5 at t1 with 2 wounds and 3+ so 30 wounds t5 3+ is a lot of puppies to kill. I have been playing a lot of Gal Vorbak and it's almost the same stats line and impact in close combat. But you have to place your warp rift well It's Daemons so expect some random :cuss ahah Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354902-daemons-of-the-ruinstorm-4000points/#findComment-5295281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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