XstaSea Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 So for the longest time I’ve been buying and painting chaos models. I probably have quite a mish mash of stuff so I was wondering if anyone could help me out by giving me some pointers on what to get next so that I can get a 1500-2000 pt list together. Or at least something I can take along to my local store and play with. Currently I have: 20 Chaos Space Marines (mix of chain swords/pistols , some flamers/plasma and normal bolters) 5 Chosen chaos space marines (dark vengeance) 1 chaos lord (dark vengeance) 5 chaos terminators 10 cultists 1 Helldrake 1 Hellbrute 1 Chaos sorcerer in Terminator Armour 5 Warp Talons 5 Raptors 1 Chaos Lord with Jump pack 1 Kharne the Betrayer 8 Khorne Berzerkers 1 Chaos Spawn 1 (old Abaddon) Can I use this as a normal hq? 1 Abaddon the Despoiler (I love this new model) In terms of what I like aesthetically: I think Chaos looks awesome however I am not a fan of the Nurgle look or the overly demon/mutated look. I hate seeing chaos marines with crab claws or big tongues/gooey bits going all over. It’s just not for me.. Despite that I love Heldrakes and I am thinking of buying a Maulerfiend as I think those two massive guns look awesome. I’ll probably also get 10 of the new Havocs when they come out. So what do you guys suggest? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354924-can-someone-help-me-shape-an-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 So I had a mess around in Battlescribe and came up with this as a basic starting point based on what you already own: ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [41 PL, 696pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Legion: Black Legion + HQ + Abaddon the Despoiler Sorcerer in Terminator Armour: Combi-bolter, Force sword, No Chaos Mark + Troops + Chaos Cultists: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark . Cultist Champion: Autogun Chaos Space Marines: No Chaos Mark . Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun . 7x Marine w/ Boltgun . Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun . Marine w/ special weapon: Flamer Chaos Space Marines: No Chaos Mark . Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun . 7x Marine w/ Boltgun . Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun . Marine w/ special weapon: Flamer ++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [52 PL, 757pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Legion: Black Legion + HQ + Chaos Lord with Jump Pack: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, No Chaos Mark + Elites + Chaos Terminators: No Chaos Mark . Chaos Terminator Champion: Combi-bolter, Power axe . Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power axe . Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power axe . Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power axe . Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power axe Helbrute: Helbrute fist, Multi-melta, No Chaos Mark + Fast Attack + Chaos Spawn: Chaos Spawn, No Chaos Mark Raptors: No Chaos Mark, 4x Raptor . Raptor Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainsword Warp Talon: No Chaos Mark . 4x Warp Talon: 4x Lightning Claw (pair) . Warp Talon Champion: Lightning Claw (pair) + Flyer + Heldrake: Hades Autocannon, Heldrake claws, No Chaos Mark ++ Total: [93 PL, 1453pts] ++ Obviously there's no weapons chosen for the terminators or Raptors. If you're going for 2k I'd suggest splitting the Helbrute and Terminators out into a Vanguard along with your Dark Vengeance Lord and Chosen and/or Berserkers for that extra command point. Also I know they're like, the least sexy purchase ever, but I recommend a Rhino or two. They're really helpful for not getting your dudes shot up turn one. Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354924-can-someone-help-me-shape-an-army/#findComment-5287822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XstaSea Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 Wow thanks for the help! I think I need more vehicles in general ! So yeah I’ll bite the bullet and get a rhino. I was also looking at obliterators , they seem like awesome units now. What are thoughts about forgefiends , I’m really loving the model, just those huge plasma cannons look really cool.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354924-can-someone-help-me-shape-an-army/#findComment-5287845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyrak Slaughterborn Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Forgefiends arent great. Even with a buff from the new lord discordant model. Degrading bs really hurts the forgefiend. I wish it was the opposite of the maulerfiend and had degrading ws instead of bs. The maulerfiend would be a good choice with a lord discordant though. See what im hinting at here. Buy a lord discordant and a daemon engine or two! You cant get any more chaos than that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354924-can-someone-help-me-shape-an-army/#findComment-5287855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XstaSea Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 Ah that’s a shame. Yeah lord Discordant looks awesome I just feel like I already have a lot of HQ lol... What do you think of the new Obliterators ? Was quite funny some guy was getting really salty about them at my local gamestore. The guy he was splaying against brought like 6 of them and absolutely destroyed his army .. was actually quite funny lol. Also it’s a shame about the Maulerfiend being the only viable option, I hate the look of all those tentacles.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354924-can-someone-help-me-shape-an-army/#findComment-5287873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XstaSea Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 Also does Abaddon get to fight with both his melee weapons in combat or does he still have to choose which weapons he wants to fight with? Also with all the different legions, options and marks I was wondering if you could clarify something for me. If I have a chaos lord or say Abaddon then they are Black Legion. From what I remember that detachment has to be Black Legion but can benefit from their warlord traits/stratagems etc So say I wanted to run a Nightlord setup with some warp talons and raptors how would I get that into an army running Abaddon or a World Eater Khorne Lord etc As long as the individual detachments are one Legion you can still put together different detachments from different legions to build your overall army, right? You see I like the idea of Black Legion and how even renegade chapters have members that turn and end up following him but if you have to make them Black Legion you may miss out on some cool stuff those chapters have like the CP,s from Red Corsairs etc How can this be done legally ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354924-can-someone-help-me-shape-an-army/#findComment-5287890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Yeah you can have a Black Legion detachment and a Night Lords detachment in the same army that's totally fine. Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354924-can-someone-help-me-shape-an-army/#findComment-5287909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Abaddon can fight with both or just with Drach'nyen. Drach'nyen's rules state you must roll a die to see how many extra attacks you get from it, but it doesn't say those are the only attacks you can make with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354924-can-someone-help-me-shape-an-army/#findComment-5288106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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