Arufel87 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Jim Vesal piloted a daemon army to a first place finish at Adepticon. The list itself is very troops heavy as is expected. I'm wondering if there would be any way to replicate the list without the ever present Supreme Command TKsons detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Probably. The TS are only there because the daemon princes and ahriman are so efficient, the contemptor is good but probably just a personal favorite of the player that wasn't core to winning most of the games. You don't need to soup daemons to go 5/5 with them at a tournament, but you probably do to win a 100+ man one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/#findComment-5288049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 So what did he bring? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/#findComment-5288058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arufel87 Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 Poxbringer, Bilepiper, 60 plaguebearers, nurglings, skullreaver prince, changecaster, bloodletters, pink horrors, ahriman, 2 TKsons daemon princes, exalted sorcerer and contemptor with C beam cannons. I assume the nurgle element held down objectives and screened the smite spam element while the pink horrors wiped screens for the bloodletters to deep strike into juicy targets. I've never been able to make a list like this work so it would be interesting to see what his matchups were. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/#findComment-5288275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Chaos Daemons Battalion Chaos Allegiance: Nurgle -HQ- Poxbringer Sloppity Bilepiper -Troops- Nurglings X 3 Plaguebearers X 30, Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos Plaguebearers X 30, Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos Chaos Daemons Battalion Chaos Allegiance: Chaos Undivided -HQ- Changecaster Daemon Prince of Chaos, Mark of Khorne, Wings, Daemonic Axe – Relic Skullreaver -Troops- Bloodletters X 15, Daemonic Icon (Banner of Blood), Instrument of Chaos Pink Horrors X 25 Brimstone Horrors X 10 Thousand Sons Supreme Command -HQ- Ahriman Daemon Prince of Tzeentch, Wings, Malefic Talons X 2 Daemon Prince of Tzeentch, Wings, Malefic Talons X 2, Warlord – High Magister, Relic – Helm of the Third Eye Sorcerer in Terminator Armor, Inferno Combi-Bolter, Force Sword, Familiar -Elites- Helforged Contemptor Dreadnought, C-Beam Cannon X 2 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/#findComment-5288578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalan Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Hi, Jim here. The contemptor fits a very specific role and does good against hordes and vehicles alike and definitely won me games. Overall the list doesnt work without the TS parts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/#findComment-5289262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Congrats on the big win ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/#findComment-5289281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urdokadin Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 @ Khalan, hey I was considering running a Slaanesh Daemon prince for ITC format. Was wondering if you had any experience comboing the Forbidden Gem and Symphony of pain. Forbidden Gem has no stipulations on what kind of characters it works on so it can shut down knights, shield captains and primarchs. Symphony of Pain can really hurt the big bully units that many lists are relying on. Paired together, you can use the prince to support the Skullreaver. I've had some success shutting down shield captains and their ilk but I've been surprised that it hasn't been used to this point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/#findComment-5289792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I'm actually quite interested in using the Soulstealer on the new Keeper of Secrets. I assume it'll have way more wounds than currently so the opponent would have to focus it harder to take it down before it reaches melee because when it does it will easily heal itself up again. Then again the new KoS will probably be a bit more expensive than the current one as well and will be much harder to hide ... and it's not like tournament lists have a problem taking greater daemons down in one round. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/#findComment-5289846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchairarbiter Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I'm actually quite interested in using the Soulstealer on the new Keeper of Secrets. I assume it'll have way more wounds than currently so the opponent would have to focus it harder to take it down before it reaches melee because when it does it will easily heal itself up again. Then again the new KoS will probably be a bit more expensive than the current one as well and will be much harder to hide ... and it's not like tournament lists have a problem taking greater daemons down in one round. Speaking of that... if you reserve the points and summon the KOS to take on a Knight or something (very easy with an Enrapturess!) would you be able to provide it with a relic if it isn't being used by someone else? Or does that all have to be done before the game begins? I have a similar question for the upgrades... you're summoning a new unit basically. So is it allowed to have upgrades? Or would a unit of summoned Daemonettes have to be without a musician/banner? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/#findComment-5294970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I'm actually quite interested in using the Soulstealer on the new Keeper of Secrets. I assume it'll have way more wounds than currently so the opponent would have to focus it harder to take it down before it reaches melee because when it does it will easily heal itself up again. Then again the new KoS will probably be a bit more expensive than the current one as well and will be much harder to hide ... and it's not like tournament lists have a problem taking greater daemons down in one round. Speaking of that... if you reserve the points and summon the KOS to take on a Knight or something (very easy with an Enrapturess!) would you be able to provide it with a relic if it isn't being used by someone else? Or does that all have to be done before the game begins? I have a similar question for the upgrades... you're summoning a new unit basically. So is it allowed to have upgrades? Or would a unit of summoned Daemonettes have to be without a musician/banner? No, whatever unit you summon will be barebones with the default gear. I guess you'd be able to select psychic powers for it though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/#findComment-5294983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalan Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 You can definitely summon a Musician/banner as long as you pay points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/#findComment-5295056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Hi, Jim here. The contemptor fits a very specific role and does good against hordes and vehicles alike and definitely won me games. Overall the list doesnt work without the TS parts. How did the horror blob worked for you? Did you teleport them or deploy them turn1 on the board? thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/354934-the-daemon-army-that-won-adepticon/#findComment-5307524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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