Black Knight Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I wanted to finish my Deathwatch Librarian in Terminator armour and he has a single option of either Combi-melta or just his bare hand in a casting posture. If I build him with the simple casting posture has anyone been to a tournament that would not allow me to say he has a Combi-melta/plasma/etc in an army build? Basically how heavily enforced is WYSIWYG at tournaments as I do not want to have to remodel him in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 In a GW tournament the model needs to have the item to use it. So in a GW tournament at Warhammer World you would need the combi weapon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5291898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingDeth Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 If it sounds like something you'd do, you can magnetize the hand, or model a servoskull or something carrying a combimelta on a separate base so that you can include it or not at your discretion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5291973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Weapons that aren't just sidearms like pistols (when he has other shooting weapons) or grenades have to be on the model for GW tournaments afaik. If you want to keep the casting pose you could just glue or magnetize the combi-weapon on his "belt" though I'd say (or rather hip plate). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5291996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I replaced the left arm with a grey knight arm and added a combi plasma where the storm bolter would go - falchion in hand. Then I have both weapons on one arm and can keep the casting hand free. You could always add the combi to the base to make it look like he discarded it, have a servo skull hold it, etc. GW tournes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5292006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK0SIAN Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 You could also put a strap on the combi-weapon so you can put it over his shoulder or across his body when you want it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5292071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I never really understood why there are Space Marine models with straps to their weapons when we get repeatedly told that they can just maglock everything to their armour with a simple thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5292074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I never really understood why there are Space Marine models with straps to their weapons when we get repeatedly told that they can just maglock everything to their armour with a simple thought.Some folks think they are tacticool? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5292113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK0SIAN Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I never really understood why there are Space Marine models with straps to their weapons when we get repeatedly told that they can just maglock everything to their armour with a simple thought. Aesthetics :) it’s the same with scopes on weapons when the marine helmets are meant to have targeting/vision systems built in. There should be no need for scopes. For the record I’m not a huge fan of straps but it will solve the modelling issue here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5292114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Put the gun on a green stuff strap, then you can literally sling it over the shoulder without re-doing the entire model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5292868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Another option is to glue the bit to the backside of the model SM are well known for mag locking their weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5296157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyberos the Red Wake Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I used to be super obsessed with WYSIWYG, but after realizing that hobbying is more important than chasing fleeting rules (my WYSIWYG models are now all illegal in 8E, thanks GW), I understand your concern. You should honestly care less about random tournaments and more about the model. If you like the casting hand pose, keep it. If you're going to participate in a tournament where this is a concern (and it will be a concern at most serious tournaments), just buy a loose pre-7E combi-melta bit from the old plastic commander or the FW upgrade kits, paint it up, and if anyone ever whines to you about the lack of combi-melta, pull out your tiny, painted combi-melta bit and toss it on the Librarian's base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5296285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 It has to be on there. An opponent can claim they wouldn't have moved X unit to Y position if they'd known there was a combi weapon there, and a judge would side with them, for example. 40k is a visual game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5296506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Thanks all for the replies, I really wanted to put a combi-plasma on him but the set didn't have one so I thought if I could get away with the hand pose it would be the best of all the options. Honestly the weapon on the base sounds like the best option for me as I tried magnetising smaller models before(Skitarii) and I really do not like the strength of those small magnets. It is the reason I use 5x2 on my Titanicus models as the 5x1 just doesn't feel strong enough. Does anyone know of any kits that have the stormbolter style combi-plasma weapons, all I have is a ton of the normal bolter ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5296516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Pretty sure the terminator librarian comes with a combi plasma. Or there is forge world weapon packs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355102-tournaments-and-modeling/#findComment-5296820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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