Quixus Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Touché Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5300305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Can we try to avoid nitpicking about who is right or wrong? Let's just enjoy the moment this list has had and not detract from it too much. I mean any winner in today's 40K is going to have some element of luck, match ups, and a darn good player behind the dice. I for one wouldn't even have the brass to actually take that list to a GT with any level of expectation. I'm still scratching my head on how you hide that much infantry at a tournament. I think the last Ynnari flyer list I faced would have melted it, and those are popular lists right now thanks to LVO. It's a heck of a win to be sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5300331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahzek451 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Good for him. I can see why it worked, especially with terrain. Having said that, I want to say ".....do it again." haha. See it in another tournament with different matchups. Didn't he mostly play against knights? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5300342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 kSons have so many different good spells to choice from thus the psychic versatility. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5300346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I listened to most of it on the way to work. He plans on continuing to use it in the near future and will be interesting to see if he can keep momentum or if it was a fluke. I think he said he fought Ad Mech, Custodes, 2 Knights lists and Yannari though mentioned a couple potential match ups that did not happen would have smoked him. Terrain was a def factor as his Rubrics were mainly denial units hidden in los blocking terrain camping on objectives. Says he really did it for fun and trolling and got a pleasant outcome. Talk about Rubric Shaming! Plan on listening to the rest on the way home. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5300379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 "Rubric Shaming" A new term. :) Knight lists though.... wow. They have good LoS and movement. Really interesting. I would have loved to see some of those games. Even Custodes LOVE getting into CC with Thousand Sons and the excellent terrain cover benefits them as much as anyone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5300389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 @Raven1 What "new anti-character GSC/Space Marine models/rules" are you talking about Primaries have new snipers and I believe and psyker power mind raid. I know GSC have the kelermorph too that can drop within like 3" and can be pretty devastating. The GSC Sanctus has a special sniper rifle that causes perils to psyker with any unsaved wound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5300472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodd1888 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Not to be contentious, I think this is one of only the handful of lists that may show up and win "any given Sunday," for mono-faction 1kS. Pumped it shows it can. Sad that there is little variety that can pull the same off mono. You can blame that on balance issues or lack of variety, but 1kS can and will win tournaments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5300532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Agreed he does not need to win again to prove anything - he already has and seems quite a cool dude on top of it all . Let's give the man a lil respect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5300589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The great eye Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 No. That is not in prosperian nature. One win is not enough. Tzeentch demands more. He always demands more.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5300639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 No. That is not in prosperian nature. One win is not enough. Tzeentch demands more. He always demands more....Tzeentch engineered a decade of bad rules to enable successive buffs to Rubrics that brought us to this point. I'm genuinely intrigued by this army. I really love that it is Rubric focussed unlike a lot of the other 'menagerie' lists I've seen. Though I could never paint 60 Tzaangors. The 10 I have almost killed me. I'd probably go with normal beastman gors, much less detail. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5300801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaterChickenofTzeentch Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Confused, so I figured I'd check in and ask (a bit late, I know)....was he using Index Daemon Princes as opposed to Daemon Princes of Tzeentch? If not, the list is illegal because the latter can't have Warp Bolters. If the former, it's fine, but a bit of an odd choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5309650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliomanes Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 The argument is that since Daemon princes are all the same datasheet now, then you can take options from the index, such as the warp bolters. I think it's cheezy, but if the tournament organizers okay it, then that's the final word... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5309765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakybamsen Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Confused, so I figured I'd check in and ask (a bit late, I know)....was he using Index Daemon Princes as opposed to Daemon Princes of Tzeentch? If not, the list is illegal because the latter can't have Warp Bolters. If the former, it's fine, but a bit of an odd choice. To my knowledge ITC tournaments for the most part allow index options, and I saw this on BoLS written off from Best Coast Pairings, who watch american tournaments, which are in majority ITC tournaments. He gets my applause for winning a GT with not just rubrics, but a lot of them. If his matchups have been fortunate, I shall not be able to say, but winning a GT with spamming a unit that is broadly considered subpar competitively is an achievement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5309963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I listened to the podcast and he's planning on playing it out a few more times at least. From what I can tell he's not changing much if anything and plans to see how far this can go. I can sense from his interview he's well versed in the meta. He understands his matchups well, meaning he's got the groundwork laid down for what to do in the event of facing this opponent or that opponent. Or something out of left field like a Culexus. I want him to do well, but... I have a bad feeling about this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5310098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahzek451 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Well honestly, it sounds like the matchups he did have were decent to good as far as sons go. Likely a different story and outcome if the matchups were varied. Not discounting the wins, good and all, but I would like to have seen a different set of matchups. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5310103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 What factions did he play against ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5313323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 think he said he fought Ad Mech, Custodes, 2 Knights lists and Yannari Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5313705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodd1888 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Tizcan Podcast had him on. It's a pretty interesting to listen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5314088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 think he said he fought Ad Mech, Custodes, 2 Knights lists and Yannari Sounds like easy draws to me . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5315317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 I wouldn't imagine armor...or really anything at all honestly.... would be much of an issue for this list. Its putting out 16 mortal wounds on a statistical average not including flubbed or spiked rolls. + shooting + Goats + any other direct damage mortal spells....Very interesting list, nice to know we have some power in our back pocket for those... WAAC players.... or more "competitive" environments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5320952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakybamsen Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 To underline that this might not just have been the luck of the draw, a very similar list won recently at another well sized tournament (80 players I think it was). Basically it was also 7 MSU rubric squads with some tzaangors/cultists in 3 battalions, Ahriman, DP's and so on. It's at least quite unlikely to just have been good matchups when repeated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5321363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I was hoping to start painting my next 10 Rubrics but my 40 goats are taking a long time. Good to hear it is not an isolated event. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5321621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I was hoping to start painting my next 10 Rubrics but my 40 goats are taking a long time. Good to hear it is not an isolated event. 40 goats? Contrast paints? Those aren't out for a while though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5321684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Yea I know the feeling. I have so many goats to do I just put the whole painting Thousand Sons things off. It's really defeating, but I can't imagine using those new paints, but I imagine they would make such a job more manageable but I'm getting a bit off topic here. I saw the guy won a second event. I'm not sure the match ups for that tournie though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355415-gt-win/page/2/#findComment-5321687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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