Taliesin Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 So this is coming out now and it looks good to me, one of the year's best releases so far IMO. Read the sample available on the site and it really wet my appetite. I've not read the first one and am not sure if it has as interesting a premise as this one, which with T'au and Inquisition both involved hits some of my bullet points. Anyone else looking forward to this, and any thoughts on the first book ( which is actually only from 2013, I thought this might be a sequel to a much older book, but it's not). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
caladancid Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 You MUST read the first one. It is so good! Honestly Deathwatch has been one of my favorites for a long time, getting this sequel (that I never thought would actually happen, six years is a long time!) is a high point of any BL release for the past several years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5303503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Yes, the first one is a must read. 100%. I'm extremely fanatical on it. That and all the lost shorts that Parker wrote that (unfortunately) kinda got retconned when he wrote Deathwatch, but were awesome nonetheless. Talon Squad lives on!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5303552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 First one has face-off with Genestealers right? They're the enemy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5303628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caladancid Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 First one has face-off with Genestealers right? They're the enemy? Yes...mostly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5303631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchu warlord Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Count me in on the Talon Squad wagon. Huge fan of the team here and aye, the first book was a masterpiece. It is also, as far as I know, one of the most informative book on the Exorcist chapters, long live Darrion Rauth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5304082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 It's a story with T'au that is not written by Kelly. I'll take what I can get lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5304136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 It's a story with T'au that is not written by Kelly. I'll take what I can get lol yo dude this thread was doing so good until you mentioned...him... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5304157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Head scratching time again. Only released in HB and digital download audio. No ebook. Surely the can't be losing that many dead tree sales that they need to delay the digital format? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5305016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfburk Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 On amazon kindle its releasing on may 4, same day as the orders go out on black library. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5305338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caladancid Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Head scratching time again. Only released in HB and digital download audio. No ebook. Surely the can't be losing that many dead tree sales that they need to delay the digital format? It is available on Amazon Kindle, just not BL wesbite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5305503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Finished it, will give my thoughts later Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5305986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH79 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Finished it, will give my thoughts later I'm currently on Chapter 7 and absolutely loving it!! My interest with 30 / 40k had been wavering a little of late, but this book is an absolute gem... dark, gritty and brilliantly written so far! Hopefully BL re-issue the first book by Steve and give it the Audiobook treatment too, Andrew Wincott is doing a great job with the narration. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5305994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caladancid Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Finished it, will give my thoughts later How did you already get it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5306023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Finished it, will give my thoughts later How did you already get it? You can download it on audible for a few days now already. Gonna start listening to it on my way to work tomorrow. Can't wait for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5306040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caladancid Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Finished it, will give my thoughts later How did you already get it? You can download it on audible for a few days now already. Gonna start listening to it on my way to work tomorrow. Can't wait for it. Must resist....I already preordered the ebook. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5306109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamedake88 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Lisitening to the Audiobook at the moment and good lord is it good. Not only has Parker knocked it out of the park but the narration done by Andrew Wincott is fabulous. I think this is his first 40k reading and the voice he puts on and the emotion he invests in the different characters really lend weight to the story. A must buy in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5306639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Finished it, will give my thoughts later How did you already get it? You can download it on audible for a few days now already. Gonna start listening to it on my way to work tomorrow. Can't wait for it. Yep, listened to it on Audible. so I'd rate it a 4/5 Pros TAU representation (probably some of the best writing for the tau) - they seem realistic. they seem like hypocrites, but intelligent borderline racist towards humans. - The world they are on was once a imperial world, but it is a desert world of little value, a warp storm occured which cut off communication with the imperium. - during this time, dark eldar raider hit the planet and took out the astropathic choirs and harassed the humans of this world for years. - Famine, and lack of water was growing during this period - TAU show up, kill/run off the dark eldar. Conquer the world, set up terra forming generators, start to turn it blue, its raining, crops and water famine start to subside. - Tau note that it will take decades to get the world to a good point and by that point, TAU will have the majority population on this world, and they imply after TAU lives reach a certain threshold on a world, that they do something to the natives. - IM going to guess that its shipping them off to other worlds to settle TAU human forces - ISF: Intergrated Security Forces - they are the PDF/Guard that teamed up with the tau, they have tau and imperial tech. ( they ride in tau vehicles, weapons seem to flip between gaurd and tau), no imperial vehicles. - ISF are integrated with the fire caste. seem to have similar but different system as standard firewarriors. - ISF are respected by the tau fire warriors for the most part. - some human forces are forced to cooperate with the tau, their families abducted and told to do XYZ til the star dies out, otherwise you will never see them again. Imperial: - Guerilla warfare and terror tactics. a large portion of the beginning of the book was dedicated to how imperial and tau commanders are playing a game of getting the population of civilians either complacent or angry, to help turn the tide for total control. - TAU not going in with military strength to force the guerilla imperial soldiers to seem more like terrorists and extremists to the civilian population. story: Story kinda fell apart for me. - so actual spoilers now. . . . A rogue inquisitor teamed up with the tau to gain access to a temporal rift in the tau system* at least thats the end goal. which we find out in the last chapter. - The inquisitor and tau are conducting experiments with genestealers on Humans and on TAU. I listened through certain chapters twice because I thought I missed something, but they never seem to go indepth why they are doing this. Just that "ITS IMPORTANT". but its not just the inquisitor that turned, turns out here body gaurd retinue are marines, and 2 of them turned, and gave the rest of their squad ( who were loyal to the imperium, they were in stasis/asleep during this. one woke up killed tau, so the tau vivisected him alive) the marines turning and giving their brothers to their allies seemed like the worst writing in this book. big reason i got why was that the "iron hand" alpha said something about logic being why. wasnt fond of it. I liked the main cast and the inquisitorial storm troopers, they seemed to be written well. ----- I'll update this tomorrow im gonna go eat dinner. Dont let this initial half written thoughts on this book make you think one way or the other about it. its a solid 4/5, some of the best writing for the TAU ive seen, Good writing for the loyal imperial side to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5306721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Don't click the spoiler, don't click the spoiler... Actually could you put your rating outside the spoiler? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5306729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Finished it, will give my thoughts later How did you already get it? You can download it on audible for a few days now already. Gonna start listening to it on my way to work tomorrow. Can't wait for it. Yep, listened to it on Audible. so I'd rate it a 4/5 Pros TAU representation (probably some of the best writing for the tau) - they seem realistic. they seem like hypocrites, but intelligent borderline racist towards humans. - The world they are on was once a imperial world, but it is a desert world of little value, a warp storm occured which cut off communication with the imperium. - during this time, dark eldar raider hit the planet and took out the astropathic choirs and harassed the humans of this world for years. - Famine, and lack of water was growing during this period - TAU show up, kill/run off the dark eldar. Conquer the world, set up terra forming generators, start to turn it blue, its raining, crops and water famine start to subside. - Tau note that it will take decades to get the world to a good point and by that point, TAU will have the majority population on this world, and they imply after TAU lives reach a certain threshold on a world, that they do something to the natives. - IM going to guess that its shipping them off to other worlds to settle TAU human forces - ISF: Intergrated Security Forces - they are the PDF/Guard that teamed up with the tau, they have tau and imperial tech. ( they ride in tau vehicles, weapons seem to flip between gaurd and tau), no imperial vehicles. - ISF are integrated with the fire caste. seem to have similar but different system as standard firewarriors. - ISF are respected by the tau fire warriors for the most part. - some human forces are forced to cooperate with the tau, their families abducted and told to do XYZ til the star dies out, otherwise you will never see them again. Imperial: - Guerilla warfare and terror tactics. a large portion of the beginning of the book was dedicated to how imperial and tau commanders are playing a game of getting the population of civilians either complacent or angry, to help turn the tide for total control. - TAU not going in with military strength to force the guerilla imperial soldiers to seem more like terrorists and extremists to the civilian population. story: Story kinda fell apart for me. - so actual spoilers now. . . . A rogue inquisitor teamed up with the tau to gain access to a temporal rift in the tau system* at least thats the end goal. which we find out in the last chapter. - The inquisitor and tau are conducting experiments with genestealers on Humans and on TAU. I listened through certain chapters twice because I thought I missed something, but they never seem to go indepth why they are doing this. Just that "ITS IMPORTANT". but its not just the inquisitor that turned, turns out here body gaurd retinue are marines, and 2 of them turned, and gave the rest of their squad ( who were loyal to the imperium, they were in stasis/asleep during this. one woke up killed tau, so the tau vivisected him alive) the marines turning and giving their brothers to their allies seemed like the worst writing in this book. big reason i got why was that the "iron hand" alpha said something about logic being why. wasnt fond of it. I liked the main cast and the inquisitorial storm troopers, they seemed to be written well. ----- I'll update this tomorrow im gonna go eat dinner. Dont let this initial half written thoughts on this book make you think one way or the other about it. its a solid 4/5, some of the best writing for the TAU ive seen, Good writing for the loyal imperial side to. I've managed to read only the T'au relevant part of the spoiler without scrolling further down. I wasn't able to start listening to it today but now I'm convinced that my money isn't wasted. :D The human ISF integration into the Firecaste and the use of so much of the T'au technology is surprising since before it was a pretty closed system for humans and while improving what tech they were using a bit the T'au usually didn't provide them with the same stuff the Firecaste is using. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5306773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Don't click the spoiler, don't click the spoiler... Actually could you put your rating outside the spoiler? 4/5 Would've been a 4.5/5 if one train of logic was alerted Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5307084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Loved it. It's actually a pretty long novel tbh, but no moment lags and it all really builds to the end quite well. I'll place it at a 4.5/5, the same rating I'd give Deathwatch, but for a different reason. A decent amount of time what ends up happening is that Parker will be writing a scene from Character A's POV but then switch in the next paragraph to Character B's POV, and it's a little bit disconcerting. I have to reread the paragraph to figure out who's the POV character now. I think the Genestealer plot will be resolved in the followup(s). We found out what Al-Rashaq was, but not what the Genestealers are for necessarily. Well, besides somehow breeding them outside the influence of the Hive Mind so humanity can use them as weapons themselves. A plan I'm sure is going to work...for sure..definitely... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5315036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I'm only halfway through and it's already the best T'au novel I've read in quite a while and also just overall a great novel. Definitely something I'd recommend to others. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5315080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I enjoyed the first novel a lot and it always surprised me they didn’t seemed interested in doing a follow up. If this doesn’t convince them, nothing will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5315572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morovir Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 From the interview on Track of Words, it seems that a sequel was always in the works, but problems in the author's life prevented him from working on it for a while. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355578-deathwatch-shadowbreaker/#findComment-5315584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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