Johanhgg Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Ive tried finding information about this type of landspeeder. Are they in the heresy-era or more in the 40k-setting? I know rules-wise they are represented in imperial armour for use in 40k. But can i field them in my white scars 30k-Army? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Tempests have an assault cannon and missiles? In that case, not outside the blood angels, where the missiles would also be a havoc launcher Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5303414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 The Scars first used them in M38 which would suggest they are retrofits of existing technology. If they are flyers though, you can take three as a Lord of War using 7th edition Imperial Armor rules. Edit: It looks like FW narrowed down the list of units to choose from in the LA red book, so this is outdated Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5303415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 You can't field them as Land Speeder Tempests, but you could use the models if you gave them the correct weapons to be played as Legion Land Speeders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5303416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanhgg Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 Thanks guys! Think im going to buy scimitars instead, to field both in 30k and 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5303458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I’m hoping the new variant of bike will come with a havoc launcher and heavy bolter anyway Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5303516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanhgg Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 I’m hoping the new variant of bike will come with a havoc launcher and heavy bolter anyway Now im intrigued! What new bike? You mean a potential primaris bike? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5303541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 The new white scar variant they can take as of book 8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5303547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanhgg Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 The new white scar variant they can take as of book 8Ah you mean the kyzagan? No, you mean shamshin :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5303675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 In this kind of instance I would never let the 'official' background stop you from getting and building the miniature that you want. They can't say emphatically that, at some point over 250yrs of the Great Crusade and Heresy, some White Scars somewhere didn't try using a land speeder with missile launcher attached? On that basis I would say go for it! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5303734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 In this kind of instance I would never let the 'official' background stop you from getting and building the miniature that you want. They can't say emphatically that, at some point over 250yrs of the Great Crusade and Heresy, some White Scars somewhere didn't try using a land speeder with missile launcher attached? On that basis I would say go for it! :) I'll be the devils advocate. They had Javelins, they didn't need to try this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5303766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbunneh Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 In this kind of instance I would never let the 'official' background stop you from getting and building the miniature that you want. They can't say emphatically that, at some point over 250yrs of the Great Crusade and Heresy, some White Scars somewhere didn't try using a land speeder with missile launcher attached? On that basis I would say go for it! I'll be the devils advocate. They had Javelins, they didn't need to try this. Counterpoint: The White Scars were a staggered Legion, I can see some techpriests bodging together a Javelin lite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5303964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 There's no restriction on the missiles, just that they're havoc launchers like 90% of what cyclones became. The assault cannon is the big no-no Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5303969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlisimo Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 There's no restriction on the missiles, just that they're havoc launchers like 90% of what cyclones became. The assault cannon is the big no-no The Kyzagan variant of the Javelin has a Kheres assault cannon, so one option would be to fit twin Reapers on the Tempest and call it a Kyzagan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5304045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Sure...but there's quite a difference in size between a javelin and speeder. A javelin almost has the same footprint as a rhino, in a game where line of sight, armour facings and obscurment still matters. My solution would be to replace the ac with something else and just use it as normal speeder with a legal loadout Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5304088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 In this kind of instance I would never let the 'official' background stop you from getting and building the miniature that you want. They can't say emphatically that, at some point over 250yrs of the Great Crusade and Heresy, some White Scars somewhere didn't try using a land speeder with missile launcher attached? On that basis I would say go for it! I'll be the devils advocate. They had Javelins, they didn't need to try this. Counterpoint: The White Scars were a staggered Legion, I can see some techpriests bodging together a Javelin lite.But it's to light to carry the weight. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5304095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 They have super-powerful anti-gravity engines, designed by renowned Imperial engineer Frank Gravity Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355579-question-about-landspeeder-tempest/#findComment-5304178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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