Question about landspeeder tempest

[Johanhgg]

Ive tried finding information about this type of landspeeder. Are they in the heresy-era or more in the 40k-setting?

 

I know rules-wise they are represented in imperial armour for use in 40k. But can i field them in my white scars 30k-Army?

[SkimaskMohawk]

Tempests have an assault cannon and missiles?

 

In that case, not outside the blood angels, where the missiles would also be a havoc launcher

[Marshal Rohr]

The Scars first used them in M38 which would suggest they are retrofits of existing technology. If they are flyers though, you can take three as a Lord of War using 7th edition Imperial Armor rules.

 

Edit: It looks like FW narrowed down the list of units to choose from in the LA red book, so this is outdated

[Fenbain]

You can't field them as Land Speeder Tempests, but you could use the models if you gave them the correct weapons to be played as Legion Land Speeders.

[Johanhgg]

Thanks guys! Think im going to buy scimitars instead, to field both in 30k and 40k.

[Marshal Rohr]

I’m hoping the new variant of bike will come with a havoc launcher and heavy bolter anyway

[Johanhgg]

  On 4/28/2019 at 5:30 PM, Marshal Rohr said:

I’m hoping the new variant of bike will come with a havoc launcher and heavy bolter anyway

Now im intrigued! What new bike? You mean a potential primaris bike?

[SkimaskMohawk]

The new white scar variant they can take as of book 8

[Johanhgg]

  On 4/28/2019 at 7:24 PM, SkimaskMohawk said:

The new white scar variant they can take as of book 8

Ah you mean the kyzagan?

 

No, you mean shamshin :)

[Pacific81]

In this kind of instance I would never let the 'official' background stop you from getting and building the miniature that you want. They can't say emphatically that, at some point over 250yrs of the Great Crusade and Heresy, some White Scars somewhere didn't try using a land speeder with missile launcher attached?

On that basis I would say go for it! :)

[Gorgoff]

  On 4/29/2019 at 8:37 AM, Pacific81 said:

In this kind of instance I would never let the 'official' background stop you from getting and building the miniature that you want. They can't say emphatically that, at some point over 250yrs of the Great Crusade and Heresy, some White Scars somewhere didn't try using a land speeder with missile launcher attached?

On that basis I would say go for it! :)

I'll be the devils advocate.

 

They had Javelins, they didn't need to try this.

[Rabidbunneh]

  On 4/29/2019 at 11:05 AM, Gorgoff said:

 

  On 4/29/2019 at 8:37 AM, Pacific81 said:

In this kind of instance I would never let the 'official' background stop you from getting and building the miniature that you want. They can't say emphatically that, at some point over 250yrs of the Great Crusade and Heresy, some White Scars somewhere didn't try using a land speeder with missile launcher attached?

On that basis I would say go for it!

I'll be the devils advocate.

 

They had Javelins, they didn't need to try this.

 

Counterpoint: The White Scars were a staggered Legion, I can see some techpriests bodging together a Javelin lite.

[SkimaskMohawk]

There's no restriction on the missiles, just that they're havoc launchers like 90% of what cyclones became. The assault cannon is the big no-no

[carlisimo]

  On 4/29/2019 at 5:11 PM, SkimaskMohawk said:

There's no restriction on the missiles, just that they're havoc launchers like 90% of what cyclones became. The assault cannon is the big no-no

The Kyzagan variant of the Javelin has a Kheres assault cannon, so one option would be to fit twin Reapers on the Tempest and call it a Kyzagan.

[SkimaskMohawk]

Sure...but there's quite a difference in size between a javelin and speeder. A javelin almost has the same footprint as a rhino, in a game where line of sight, armour facings and obscurment still matters.

 

My solution would be to replace the ac with something else and just use it as normal speeder with a legal loadout

[Gorgoff]

  On 4/29/2019 at 5:07 PM, Rabidbunneh said:

 

  On 4/29/2019 at 11:05 AM, Gorgoff said:

 

 

  On 4/29/2019 at 8:37 AM, Pacific81 said:

In this kind of instance I would never let the 'official' background stop you from getting and building the miniature that you want. They can't say emphatically that, at some point over 250yrs of the Great Crusade and Heresy, some White Scars somewhere didn't try using a land speeder with missile launcher attached?

On that basis I would say go for it!

I'll be the devils advocate.

 

They had Javelins, they didn't need to try this.

Counterpoint: The White Scars were a staggered Legion, I can see some techpriests bodging together a Javelin lite.

But it's to light to carry the weight. :)

[Pacific81]

They have super-powerful anti-gravity engines, designed by renowned Imperial engineer Frank Gravity