Soder Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 So if GWs intention was to not allow us access to any kind of 2++ they def missed the mark.. saw this on Dakkadakka, sharing. “I like how in GW's quest to snuff out our 2++ combos (Heed, BroChamp) they neglected to edit the Warding Stave language... which was literally the SAME as Heed re: "add 1 to invulnerable saving throws". Could this have been intentional on their part? Not likely. The more probable & sadder explanation is that they simply forgot about the Warding Stave and it's capability of RAW a 2++ in the Fight phase. Proving even more that GW doesn't give half a mind to think about GK more than they're required to.” Originally posted by Nairul on Dakkadakka. Do you guys think this was intentional or not? RAW = Any unit with 4++ equipped with warding stave and sanctuary essentially still gives it a 2++ in the fight phase.. This would be possible to use on a generic GM and BroCap but probably not worth it anyways vs equipping a hammer. I def think it’s just a big oversight on their part! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355625-no-more-2-but/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarion Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 It wasn't intentional, they forgot like they always do when they bend gk over the rails every :cussing faq. I swear to the emperor that this is a massive joke with how they keep picking away at everything GK have left. It'll be faqd soon to be nerfed so you never have a reason to use the stave anymore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355625-no-more-2-but/#findComment-5304380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 To be fair, the staffs invul boost only applies in melee so the vast majority of wounds thrown at our units don't care about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355625-no-more-2-but/#findComment-5304416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Why won't GW just write in core rules, that invulnerable saves always fail on rolls of 1's and 2's, if they want to do it in every army anyway? Really, quick and easy fix. Staves will be FAQed in September, I suppose. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355625-no-more-2-but/#findComment-5304863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherAetherick Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Why won't GW just write in core rules, that invulnerable saves always fail on rolls of 1's and 2's, if they want to do it in every army anyway? Really, quick and easy fix. Staves will be FAQed in September, I suppose. Because Drukhari Archon shadow field exists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355625-no-more-2-but/#findComment-5304867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 It makes me confident that no Primaris GK are coming out, cause they would've made GK amazing so people bought up the remaining stock of models then nerfed them into oblivion before releasing Super GK Primaris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355625-no-more-2-but/#findComment-5304869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soder Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 I looked up the archon to check out it’s rules. Are there any other units in the game that effectively still have a 2++? Sadly I’m only familiar with GK and Ork rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355625-no-more-2-but/#findComment-5304887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherAetherick Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I looked up the archon to check out it’s rules. Are there any other units in the game that effectively still have a 2++? Sadly I’m only familiar with GK and Ork rules. Eldrad with protect casted on him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355625-no-more-2-but/#findComment-5304978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Keep in mind that a 2++ is much less worth on a T3 model than it is on a T4 or even a T6 model though. There are MUCH more wounds incoming he has to throw his 2++ against and once he fails even just one roll then the 2++ is gone for the rest of the game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355625-no-more-2-but/#findComment-5305050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuittzz Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Has Castellan Crowe avoided the 'Only In Death....' strategem nerf? Says (other than a Brotherhood Champion) in the rule when determining what characters. So is that indicating that the Brotherhood Champion datasheet can't use it or rather the keyword itself, as I know CC has the keyword himself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355625-no-more-2-but/#findComment-5305832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherAetherick Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Nope, he has the BROTHERHOOD CHAMPION keyword. The FAQ has it bolded as a keyword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355625-no-more-2-but/#findComment-5306089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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