Panzer Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Finally points for the Contorted Epitome. All in all just as expected but now I don't have to feel bad about buying it first. :P List looks solid for 250p. Definitely need to pump up those Daemonette numbers for higher point games and add something with a +1S aura as well. I'm not much of a fan of chariots in 40k unfortunately though. The Seeker chariot is okay-ish, the Hellflayer is the best and the Exalted chariot the worst due degrading profile on a squishy vehicle imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5309932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 Finally points for the Contorted Epitome. All in all just as expected but now I don't have to feel bad about buying it first. :P List looks solid for 250p. Definitely need to pump up those Daemonette numbers for higher point games and add something with a +1S aura as well. I'm not much of a fan of chariots in 40k unfortunately though. The Seeker chariot is okay-ish, the Hellflayer is the best and the Exalted chariot the worst due degrading profile on a squishy vehicle imo. The Enchantress is a Herald so full Herald buffs there. The Exalted Chariot is stronger in my opinion than the Seeker. Hellflayer is a given, but I wantes sometging Tammy for low point games that can do some damage early game. My next 250 points will be interesting. Probably going to skip the mirror until I go for 750 and double my Daemonettes for a start. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5309936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 The Enchantress may have the keyword, but she doesn't have the aura - compare her profile with an actual herald - so no +1 S unfortunately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5309945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Yeah she doesn't have the aura other heralds have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5309976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 She is also not a psyker. Despite the keyword she doesn't actually have much in common with the other heralds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5310057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 Ah, my mistake there. Guess she has it just to interact with other rules. For some reason I was thinking the +1S was a codex level aura and not a datasheet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5310112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 The only codex level aura is the locus. Still, I can understand how you made that assumption. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5310115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 The only codex level aura is the locus. Still, I can understand how you made that assumption.Mainly by a lack of reading and needing more sleep. Sadly the only Herald I actually like is the Syll'Esske one since the index ones need updating and the normal one is Finecast. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5310134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 The Epitome gives the same strength buff. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5310136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 The Epitome gives the same strength buff. ;)That sorts the issue then since I am adding one of those for my 750 list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5310140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 She is also not a psyker. Despite the keyword she doesn't actually have much in common with the other heralds. The various Nurgle ones work the same way, only one has psychic powers and grants the strength buff but all have the herald of nurgle keyword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5313169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just a quick one: Does anyone know the size of the Morror that is in the AoS Endless Spell box? Is it approximately the same size as the Epitome? I still don't like the Epitomes model and the spell might be a good alternative, maybe with a Daemonette leaning out of the glass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5315934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just a quick one: Does anyone know the size of the Morror that is in the AoS Endless Spell box? Is it approximately the same size as the Epitome? I still don't like the Epitomes model and the spell might be a good alternative, maybe with a Daemonette leaning out of the glass. The Endless Spell mirror is quite a bit bigger. comparing just the actual mirrors the Epitome is 6 cm tall, compared to the spell 9 cm height. The Endless spells is also a cm wider. Add in the hand holding the Mesmerizing Mirror and it's far taller and on a much larger base. Which might be a problem depending on who you play since the larger bases will grant it a larger fallback prevention aura. If you just after aesthetics the Mesmerizing mirror does have complete detailing on the back, so you could mount it to a smaller bases without the hand holding. I've no idea how though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5315946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Thanks for that Sersi, I'm actually planning on converting just the mirror into a second Epitome (with a pair of attendants and tentacles grafted on, obviously) and maybe converting the hand that holds it into a really weird, abstract Daemon Prince. "Giant floating hand with a face in the palm" seems very 80s Slaanesh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5315954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 No problem. I did manage to take a size comparison picture of the mirrors. The Epitomes on the left and the Mesmerizing Mirror on the right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5316101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Thanks for that Sersi, I'm actually planning on converting just the mirror into a second Epitome (with a pair of attendants and tentacles grafted on, obviously) and maybe converting the hand that holds it into a really weird, abstract Daemon Prince. "Giant floating hand with a face in the palm" seems very 80s Slaanesh. Lol. The first thing I thought of seeing the Slaanesh endless spells was Madame Butterfly from Bayonetta. We just need a giant stiletto pump crashing down from a portal. In fact I will probably 3D print just that. Maybe you could have the hand clutching a giant eye. Slaanesh's "Slaa-Nulthe" aspect is an ever-staring eye. My favorite End Times memory is the elves in seeing Slaanesh's giant eye staring at them though the vortex, before it reaches through and grabs Morathi dragging her into the Warp. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5316112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Given that this thread is (in part) about the nimble mirror, I thought I would share this photo of one newly assembled. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5318524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Can you maybe meassure the height of this thing? Cant decide whether I dont like the model or not... looks very cartoonish on the GW pictures. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5318553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Me too, I've not got it yet for that reason - will be looking forward to seeing yours progress :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5318571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 From the base to the top of the slanesh symbol on the mirror it is 3 & 5/16 inches (8.6 cm). The base itself is about 5/32 inches (4 mm) tall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5318750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I don't know why but the newer daemonettes, both these and the one on top of the prince, seems younger than the old ones somehow... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5321630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 I don't know why but the newer daemonettes, both these and the one on top of the prince, seems younger than the old ones somehow... Softer features in the face perhaps? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5321633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I don't know why but the newer daemonettes, both these and the one on top of the prince, seems younger than the old ones somehow... Softer features in the face perhaps? They don't look as much like they got hit in the face with a shovel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5321742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I don't know why but the newer daemonettes, both these and the one on top of the prince, seems younger than the old ones somehow... Softer features in the face perhaps? They don't look as much like they got hit in the face with a shovel. That is so accurate :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/355740-the-contorted-epitome-and-20-speculation/page/2/#findComment-5321848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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