FarFromSam Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 While listening to a pod cast about Dark Angel's lists, they began to talk about a strategem I hadn't heard of. (Let's you retreat from combat using full movement?) And it got me to thinking about all of the FW units and other stuff that I usually ignore on battlescribe and I realized I have no idea on where to start learning about these miscellaneous rules/units/faqs. I've played DA quite a while, and I've usually done a decent job of staying on top of new rules and etc. But I need a little help. I hope, someone can point me to a thread that has all of the rules, units, strategems, expansions, faqs that are available to the DA. A quick search didn't turn anything up, but maybe there's something out there? If not, perhaps this could be a good place to cache an exhaustive list for other players looking to delve into the Rock. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isual Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 While listening to a pod cast about Dark Angel's lists, they began to talk about a strategem I hadn't heard of. (Let's you retreat from combat using full movement?) And it got me to thinking about all of the FW units and other stuff that I usually ignore on battlescribe and I realized I have no idea on where to start learning about these miscellaneous rules/units/faqs. I've played DA quite a while, and I've usually done a decent job of staying on top of new rules and etc. But I need a little help. I hope, someone can point me to a thread that has all of the rules, units, strategems, expansions, faqs that are available to the DA. A quick search didn't turn anything up, but maybe there's something out there? If not, perhaps this could be a good place to cache an exhaustive list for other players looking to delve into the Rock. The stratagem you are talking about is from the "Vigilus Defiant" Book. It's usable if you invest 1 cp for the Ravenwing special detechment. Special detechment are bought with cp and give certain units additional keywords. Those units are able to use the stratagems belonging to the special detechment. Besides that it gives you the option to use a new relic (Monster Slayer of Caliban) and a new warlord trait. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/#findComment-5314762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellunder Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I think this is the best summary: https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Dark_Angels(8E)#Specialist_Detachments Also mentions some new warlord traits from shadow spear (+1 to hit!!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/#findComment-5314917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFromSam Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Hellunder, that's the link I was hoping for! So much good reading there, I really appreciate you taking the time to link that for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/#findComment-5315047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorp Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 For the actual sources for everything I'd say the full list for DA in 8th would be: Index Imperium 1 DA Codex Forge World Astartes Index Vigilus Defiant Vigilus Ablaze Chapter Approved 2018 (oops, corrected) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/#findComment-5315193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G8Keeper Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 For the actual sources for everything I'd say the full list for DA in 8th would be: Index Imperium 1 DA Codex Forge World Astartes Index Vigilus Defiant Vigilus Ablaze Chapter Approved 2019 Online FAQ too :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/#findComment-5315221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isual Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Chapter Approved 2019 This should be 2018,this years release is still to come. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/#findComment-5315338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 For the actual sources for everything I'd say the full list for DA in 8th would be: Index Imperium 1 DA Codex Forge World Astartes Index Vigilus Defiant Vigilus Ablaze Chapter Approved 2019 Ah yes, the joy of 8E, where the simplified rules mean you don't have to carry as much books with rules like in 7E. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/#findComment-5315346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzul Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 For the actual sources for everything I'd say the full list for DA in 8th would be: Index Imperium 1 DA Codex Forge World Astartes Index Vigilus Defiant Vigilus Ablaze Chapter Approved 2019 Ah yes, the joy of 8E, where the simplified rules mean you don't have to carry as much books with rules like in 7E. <laughs in battlescribe> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/#findComment-5315382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G8Keeper Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Is there anything for DA in Vigilus Ablaze? Feel like I've missed something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/#findComment-5315537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValourousHeart Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 For the actual sources for everything I'd say the full list for DA in 8th would be: Index Imperium 1 DA Codex Forge World Astartes Index Vigilus Defiant Vigilus Ablaze Chapter Approved 2019 Ah yes, the joy of 8E, where the simplified rules mean you don't have to carry as much books with rules like in 7E. Most of those books aren't required at all. Will you want the all of these books, sure. But there is very little reason to carry them all with you. Codex - Likely the only required book on this list along with the short copy of the basic rules. Index - now that we have the codex, this is only required for a few upgrade options. Have your list written ahead of time and a photocopy of the weapon stats if they aren't in the codex and you can easily leave this behind. FW Astartes Index - only required if you are using items from this book. Again photocopy is your friend. Leave the book at home. Vigilus Defiant / Ablaze - Personally I like the missions and battle zones in these, so I take them. But if I was only using it for the 1 DA formation... you guessed it... photocopy. Chapter Approved (all years) - really only required for the points updates. If you write your lists ahead of time, you can leave this one at home. That said you are more than welcome to create an imperial soup army that includes a smidgen of everything with the imperial keyword. But then accept the fact that it is your list choices that are causing you to carry all of those books and not GW's fault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/#findComment-5315569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solrac Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I make a cheat sheet binder for my army for when I go to tournaments. Inside it I have: Several copies of my army list All photocopied datasheets used in my army All photocoped special rules used in my army Photocopy of the Deployment Maps ITC score sheets and Missions I use the cards for my stratagems and only get the cards out that i know I'm going to use. I take my rulebook and Codex with me but never really have the need to get them out, they are there just in case. I will look up the FAQ on my phone if I have to as they are easy to find. Like ValorousHeart has said, photocopy is your friend and doing something like this makes focusing on the game so easy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/#findComment-5318416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellunder Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Index Imperium 1 DA Codex Forge World Astartes Index Vigilus Defiant Vigilus Ablaze Chapter Approved 2018 (oops, corrected) ... and ”vanguard space marines codex” from shadowspear. What’s in vigilus ablaze that is usable for us? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356012-dark-angels-rulesstrategemsunits-collection/#findComment-5320161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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