Darnok Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Friendly greetings, traitorous scum!* I have recently started a new army of Fallen - see my Plog here - and could use some help with the more recent background on Dark Angels in general and the Fallen in particular. I am familiar with the background from as far back as the "Angels of Death" codex from 2nd edition, but I have yet to take in the new stuff that came with the "Gathering Storm" books or the 8th edition DA codex. If I got it right, the "modern" background puts the overall number of Fallen still around in the thousands - at least that is what is stated here. If true, it would make sizable armies of Fallen - something impossible in the older lore - an actual thing. "Codex: Fallen" incoming? The novels "Fallen Angels" and "Black Legion" are ordered, to arrive sometime next week. So those two could fill some gaps for me. Are there other things I should know, like DA legion organisation at the time of the Horus Heresy, or other details important for the Fallen? I appreciate any and all support on this matter. * ... Because as we all know: Johnson was the traitor, not Luther. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356072-help-needed-with-da-and-fallen-background/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Oh my friend....there is a lot to check upon. If you're interested in 30K DA organization, I can recommend Thorpe's Angels of Caliban, which itself is the third part of the Imperium Secundus story arc. It features the so-called Hexagrammaton https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hexagrammaton Furthermore did Thorpe write several DA stories, which are features in two omnibus as of now, Legacy of Caliban and Knights of Caliban. Haven't read them myself but they're on my to-do list and cover the DA story prior to the Gathering Storm era. Regarding 8th edition, Luther escaped during the events of Warzone: Fenris. Regarding the Fallen, yes, there are quite a lot out there. There are some theories that there are also two different Cyphers, one acting for and one against the Imperium. Just to give you a very short summary. There are way more capable brothers of the Unforgiven to help you further. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356072-help-needed-with-da-and-fallen-background/#findComment-5317112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuralshock Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 My own personal theory supported by circumstantial evidence is that Cypher is actual a psychic projection of the Lion, which might explain how "he" escaped the inescapable prison. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356072-help-needed-with-da-and-fallen-background/#findComment-5317146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsWithLegs Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 From the 8th ed codex the Fallen are gathering in "legion size" someplace, so there's probably many thousand out there Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356072-help-needed-with-da-and-fallen-background/#findComment-5317151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Luther didnt escaped during the Fenris incident with TS cause the Changeling was stopped by Watchers in the Dark It was during the BobbyG crusade that the Rock was attacked by Tzeentch demone and Luther vanished Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356072-help-needed-with-da-and-fallen-background/#findComment-5317355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnok Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 Thanks to everybody so far! Could somebody also enlighten me on DA squad markings during the Horus Heresy? Luther didnt escaped during the Fenris incident with TS cause the Changeling was stopped by Watchers in the DarkIt was during the BobbyG crusade that the Rock was attacked by Tzeentch demone and Luther vanished In what book is this covered? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356072-help-needed-with-da-and-fallen-background/#findComment-5317971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isual Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Thanks to everybody so far! Could somebody also enlighten me on DA squad markings during the Horus Heresy? Luther didnt escaped during the Fenris incident with TS cause the Changeling was stopped by Watchers in the Dark It was during the BobbyG crusade that the Rock was attacked by Tzeentch demone and Luther vanished In what book is this covered? In the latest Codex iirc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356072-help-needed-with-da-and-fallen-background/#findComment-5318083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnok Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 I have read (and thoroughly enjoyed) Black Legion - ordered the prequel a day later - and just started with Fallen Angels. Now Angels of Caliban is ordered as well, and I wonder what else I can read with insight into the Fallen. What are peoples favourite books in this regard? Would you recommend some must-reads? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356072-help-needed-with-da-and-fallen-background/#findComment-5329656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 It's old now and out dated by current fluff, but I love Angels of Darkness, such a great read. Also the short story, Call of the Lion is great too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356072-help-needed-with-da-and-fallen-background/#findComment-5333339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnok Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 I have finished "Fallen Angels" now, and really enjoyed it. In my opinion it is a must-read for every player of Dark Angels and Fallen alike. It not only brings some excellent background and motivation to the Fallen, but also to Dark Angels in general. Also: the Lion is a serious ! The Fallen are, and always were, right! Now looking forward to "Angels of Caliban", and contemplating getting both "Knights of Caliban" and "Legacy of Caliban" afterwards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356072-help-needed-with-da-and-fallen-background/#findComment-5335509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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