elbianc Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 hi, im going to a small tournment, and its the 1st time im playing with ITC rules, what do you think of the list? ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) ++ Forge World Choice: Forge World: <Mixed> + HQ + Tech-Priest Enginseer (Graia) Tech-Priest Enginseer (Graia) + Troops + Skitarii Rangers (Graia) . Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle . 4x Skitarii Ranger Skitarii Rangers (Graia) . Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle . 4x Skitarii Ranger Skitarii Rangers (Graia) . Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle . 4x Skitarii Ranger + Elites + Servitors . 4x Servitor (Agrippina) Sicarian Infiltrators (Mars) . Infiltrator Princeps . . Flechette Blaster and Taser Goad: Flechette Blaster, Taser Goad . 7x Sicarian Infiltrator (Flechette/Taser): 7x Flechette Blaster, 7x Taser Goad ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) + Forge World Choice . Forge World: Stygies VIII Specialist Detachment: Servitor Maniple + HQ + Tech-Priest Dominus: Macrostubber, Volkite Blaster Tech-Priest Enginseer + Troops + Kataphron Breachers . Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle . Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle . Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle . Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle . Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle . Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle Skitarii Rangers . Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle . 4x Skitarii Ranger Skitarii Rangers . Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle . 2x Skitarii Ranger . 2x Skitarii Ranger (Arc Rifle): 2x Arc Rifle + Fast Attack + Ironstrider Ballistarii . Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Lascannon . Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Lascannon . Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Lascannon . Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Lascannon . Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Lascannon Sydonian Dragoons . Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance . Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance . Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance . Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance . Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance . Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance + Heavy Support + Onager Dunecrawler: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber, Icarus Array Onager Dunecrawler: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber, Icarus Array ++ Auxiliary Support Detachment -1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) ++ + HQ + Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight: Astral Aim, Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword ++ Total: [134 PL, 7CP, 1,998pts] ++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_b Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Wow... that’s a pricey army! Looks like it can do some work tell us what happens. I’m very interested in what the results will be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/#findComment-5321275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuteo Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I just took AdMech to BAO and was the best result for our faction there. I officially came out 3-3, though I actually was 4-2 since they paired me against my teammate in Game 5, and I was heavily favored, so I decided to handicap that match; lost because of that, but no regrets. We were both out of the running for Top 8, and it was definitely my most enjoyable game of the tournament. We both went on to win our Game 6s. Some advice for you: 1. Cut 1 Infiltrator, 1 Ironstrider, and the 2 Arc Rifles to put a third Icarus Crawler in. It's very easy to overinvest in Infiltrators. Four Ironstriders is the magic number to down Eldar aircraft. Meanwhile, you need to be able to reliable down Eldar jetbikes. (Singing Spears are the real threat. Kill as many of the Warlocks as you can.) 2. Against armies that focus fire on your Breachers, they will die. And there are very few cases where 5++ and resurrect is worthwhile, though I ran Mars and always had Shroudpsalm just about, so maybe the story will be different for you. 3. Try to squeeze a Manipulus in or your Tau matchup is going to be pretty tough. You need to outrange him as much as possible. The Manipulus can also help your Drills and Priests move quickly across the battlefield. Here was my list: Mars Battalion Detachment - 1310 Cybernetica Cohort (-1 CP) HQ - 280 1x Belisarius Cawl - Warlord 1x Tech-Priest Manipulus - Transonic Cannon, Relic: Raiment of the Techno-Martyr Troop - 270 3x Kataphron Breacher - 3x Heavy Arc Rifle, 3x Arc Claw 3x Kataphron Breacher - 3x Heavy Arc Rifle, 3x Arc Claw 3x Kataphron Breacher - 3x Heavy Arc Rifle, 3x Arc Claw Heavy Support - 440 4x Kastelan Robot - 12x Heavy Phosphor Blaster Fast Attack - 320 4x Ironstrider Ballistarii - 4x Twin Cognis Lascannon Graia Battalion Detachment - 210 HQ - 60 1x Tech-Priest Enginseer 1x Tech-Priest Enginseer Troop - 150 5x Skitarii Vanguard - 5x Radium Carbine 5x Skitarii Vanguard - 5x Radium Carbine 5x Skitarii Ranger - 5x Galvanic Rifle 5x Skitarii Ranger - 5x Galvanic Rifle House Krast Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment - 478 Lord of War - 478 1x Knight Crusader - Avenger Gatling Cannon, Rapid-Fire Battle Cannon, Heavy Flamer, 2x Heavy Stubber Total: 1998 points 13 CP (-3) I will probably cut my Knight for Dragoons, as you have done. They are definitely a more pro-active counter-charger. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/#findComment-5321677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 So gotta say I disagree on the Servitor Maniple being not worth it. At a tournament the other week mine tanked crazy amounts of fire power. A 2+ in cover (Shroudpsalm) and 3W each makes them rather tanky, then a revive and a heal each turn keeps them topped up. The trick with the Servitor Maniple is to keep the Warlord in between a few squads of them to keep trucking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/#findComment-5322036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbianc Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 So I made a few changes on the list, I took out the infiltrators, some dragoons and the servitors, made a vanguard detachment of Grey Knights with 2 grand masters dreadknights and 3 servitor squads, cause I can still use them with the servitor maniple, and this way I have acess to the GK strats, and 2 more CP then the other list ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [77 PL, 7CP, 1,258pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Battle-forged CP [3CP] Detachment CP [5CP] Forge World Choice . Forge World: Stygies VIII Specialist Detachment: Servitor Maniple [-1CP] + HQ + Tech-Priest Dominus [7 PL, 90pts]: Macrostubber, Relic: Autocaduceus of Arkhan Land, Volkite Blaster . Warlord: Warlord Trait (CA): Master of Biosplicing Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts] + Troops + Kataphron Breachers [16 PL, 180pts] . Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle . Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle . Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle . Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle . Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle . Kataphron Breacher: Arc Claw, Heavy Arc Rifle Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 65pts] . Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle . 2x Skitarii Ranger . 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 65pts] . Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle . 2x Skitarii Ranger . 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus + Fast Attack + Ironstrider Ballistarii [20 PL, 400pts] . Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Lascannon . Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Lascannon . Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Lascannon . Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Lascannon . Ironstrider Ballistarius: Twin Cognis Lascannon Sydonian Dragoons [9 PL, 204pts] . Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance . Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance . Sydonian Dragoon: Taser Lance + Heavy Support + Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 112pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber, Icarus Array Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 112pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber, Icarus Array ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [18 PL, 170pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Forge World Choice . Forge World: Graia + HQ + Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts] Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts] + Troops + Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 35pts] . Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle . 4x Skitarii Ranger Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 35pts] . Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle . 4x Skitarii Ranger Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 40pts] . 4x Skitarii Vanguard . Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine ++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) [37 PL, 568pts] ++ + HQ + Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 259pts]: Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 249pts]: Dreadfist, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Greatsword + Elites + Servitors [3 PL, 20pts] . Servitor . Servitor . Servitor . Servitor Servitors [3 PL, 20pts] . Servitor . Servitor . Servitor . Servitor Servitors [3 PL, 20pts] . Servitor . Servitor . Servitor . Servitor ++ Total: [132 PL, 7CP, 1,996pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/#findComment-5329975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbianc Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Now I have to get some servitors... Does anyone now a good alternative to the gw ones? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/#findComment-5329978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Now I have to get some servitors... Does anyone now a good alternative to the gw ones? Ive stil lyet to come across 3rd party servitors I like, however theres a good kitbash servitor thread on this forum a few pages back thats worth checking out: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352988-kit-bash-servitor-ideas/ My favourite are the genestealer cult/kataphron mashups (and looking at your list im guessing you're covered for spare kataphron parts already!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/#findComment-5330290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I think the Servitor Maniple is worth it, but the squad size makes a world of difference. I don't think in most competitive environments 2 man squads will work. I think you need at least 5 if not 6. No less than 5 though... it's too easy to wipe them, and they become a priority. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/#findComment-5330364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbianc Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 Now I have to get some servitors... Does anyone now a good alternative to the gw ones? Ive stil lyet to come across 3rd party servitors I like, however theres a good kitbash servitor thread on this forum a few pages back thats worth checking out: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352988-kit-bash-servitor-ideas/ My favourite are the genestealer cult/kataphron mashups (and looking at your list im guessing you're covered for spare kataphron parts already!) i've bought a box of Delaque gang from necromunda, ill kit bash them with kataphron spare parts, ill post here the result I think the Servitor Maniple is worth it, but the squad size makes a world of difference. I don't think in most competitive environments 2 man squads will work. I think you need at least 5 if not 6. No less than 5 though... it's too easy to wipe them, and they become a priority. 2 man squad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/#findComment-5330478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Sorry posted that from my phone. Let’s just say minimum squads don’t work, and I strongly recommend against it at a tournament where every list is built with the firepower in mind to take a Knight down a turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/#findComment-5330636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbianc Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 OK, my breacher squad has 6 guys, I think that's a good number Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/#findComment-5330695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbianc Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 made a game test today against Ultras, guilly, lots of intercessors, hellblastaers and plasma inceptors i went second and he deployed agressively... it was the table quarters deploy, i deployed all the way in the back and he didnt had range in the 1st turn i won in turn 3, he had no veicules, so i found myself hiting primaris with lascanons... lol Breachers are great, very durable and can hurt alot, specially against primaris dreadknights are just awesome! started with one on the board hiddin, then used Gate of Infinity and teleported to hes backlines and cleread an objective, turn 2 the other one drops behinde some ruins in the middle of the board and with Astral Aiming i started killing interssesors out of line of sight :) he got cought betwin my gunline that he couldnt reach, and the dreadknight he couldnt see now i wanna test it against an heavy anti-tank list, didnt test much my las chicken, they were always out of enemy range... but in general i think i have a balanced list Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/#findComment-5330889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Congrats on the win, may it continue into the tournament for you Aye breachers really excel against elite infantry. My mates deathguard army fell to bits infront of them. S6 -2AP and d3 damage is just great. My favourite unit at the moment, I run 2 units of 6 Also sounds like the dreadknights fill the admech 'mobility issue' really well too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356206-2k-stygies-list-for-my-first-tournment-with-itc-rules/#findComment-5330904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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