Brother Tholath Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 HI All, Firstly, if this is in the wrong place, please feel free to move it! I was a bit unsure where to go. On to the main part. In August, my brother and I are going to do a road trip to Warhammer World and we are planning to play a game (because why not) He is collecting Iron Warriors with his core currently the new Chaos Lord (the one from BSF) and the chaos stuff from Shadowspear and an extra Tact Squad from that. What I'm trying to work out is where to go next with the models that I have. Below are the primaris stuff I have and I am trying to keep it a sole primaris army (although vehicles don't count in my eyes because...) but I have an issues where I really can't stand the gravis armour on the Captain or Aggressors This is what I have so far. Captain - Armed with Power Sword and MC Bolt Rifle (Unmade) 2 Lieutenants - One armed with Power Sword and Pistol, One is the bolt rifle. (Dark Imperium) 10 Intercessors (Dark Imperium) Ancient 5 Hellblasters (Dark Imperium) 10 Reivers Captain (Shadowspear) Lieutenant (Shadowspear) 10 Infilrators (Shadowspear) 3 Suppressors (Shadowspear) 3 Eliminators (Shadowspear) Should I look at a vehicle or flyer or look at some more Helblasters or even Inceptors? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Definitely 5 more Hellblasters, at least 5 more Intercessors as well as Two Repulsors. The Repulsors, when armed with all Las, provide excellent anti tank firepower as well as mobility for units like the Hellblasters. Two are needed as one would get focus fired by the opponent. Your army is made up of the new Primaris models and I feel it's best to continue on with units that match the theme, look and scale. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5321989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tholath Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 Do the other marine vehicles look that odd next to them? And thank you for the quick reply! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5321990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Do the other marine vehicles look that odd next to them? And thank you for the quick reply! Very small. Any Rhino chassis tank is tiny. On the other hand the FW Sicaran Venator is a perfect addition to a Primaris army and looks perfect next to them as it's larger. Also has fantastic firepower. https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Legion-Sicaran-Venator-2018-update Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5321992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tholath Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 It would also work with any vehicles/flyers I get, I wouldn't mind fitting into a 30k army as well... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5321996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I'd definitely say 3 more Eliminators and 3 more Suppressors. Suppressors are solid but they don't do much with just 3 models due low rate of fire. Same goes for Eliminators if you face anything with T4 or decent saves. If you can't stand Gravis armour you probably shouldn't get Inceptors since those are wearing Gravis armour as well. Other units you're missing currently which I consider strong picks for a Primaris army are: a Librarian (if you don't like the Codex powers just go with the Vanguard Librarian from Shadowspear), 1-2 Redemptor Dreadnoughts, 1-2 Repulsors (you might want to wait and see what the Repulsor Executioner they've revealed can do). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5321999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tholath Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 I forgot about him! I have the shadowspear libby too so I have that sorted. Stragely enough, I don't mind the Gravis armour on the Inceptors. I don't know why but it doesn't feel as off. That's a good point about the new repulsors. I've seen they are going to have less capacity for transport too which doesn't bother me too much. Once question, do I need more troops? I was considering another squad of each possibly...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5322001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I'd say more Intercessors for sure, yeah. And if you're keen on FW vehicles the following are the best: -Sicaran Venator -Sicaran Punisher (if you need Dakka, Primaris generally don't) -Contemptor Dread with two twin Las Cannons General rule on things like Tanks and Dreads is that they work best in pairs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5322002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 At least 5 more intercessors make sense. Infiltrators are expensive, having enough intercessors to fill a battallion is pretty much mandatory. If you want to go for infantry, Inceptors are definitely useful. Considerable number of shots, mobility (which you lack currently), and able to deep strike where needed. As the multipart inceptors have fixed poses like the starter box ones - as long as you want the bolter version, go for a starter box. There's one for half the price of Dark Imperium with 5 intercessors, 5 hellblasters and 3 inceptors (plus the DG part, which you can sell), that would solve several issues in one go and bring some meat to the list. If you want to go for vehicles, you probably need to get 2 big ones (repulsors) or 3 smaller ones. One vehicle is just a target, it will eat every AT weapon on the board and explode soon after. I've had success in casual games with the repulsor and redemptor, otherwise I've mostly run odd stuff like tarantulas so I can't say much about the other ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5322026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tholath Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 Knowing what I am going up against, or could be (CSM - IW) would more plasma make sense? So plasma inceptors and Heavy Plasma Hellblasters with another full squad of Intercessors and then sprinkle some vehicles? How would one redemptor and one repulsor be? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5322061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Yeah we have to stress the vehicle numbers. I've seen so many players take a single vehicle that inevitably attracts all anti tank firepower, it gets destroyed and they declare it as useless. Redundancy is important. 1 is none 2 is some 3 is and then Some! If you have two vehicles that serve a different purpose the opponent will just target the one that poses the greatest threat to his army. The same principle is applied up units. If you have an infantry army and only one squad of Marines armed with plasma I'll shoot those first as soon as I'm able to. List building needs to account for redundancy, mobility, board control. Edit: Also infantry that can be held back in reserve that can arrive anywhere is very good. Reivers and Inceptors help with objectives and high damage from reserves respectively. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5322062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tholath Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 What about a Deredeo? Along with a Redemptor? Or would it be too different? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5322084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Redemptor is a best as a cheap Dakka and CC platform that runs forward. For 155 points it's decent. Deredeos are strictly long range units, but I don't personally feel they benefit Primaris all that much. If you want a FW Dread stick with Quad Las Contemptors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5322089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Knowing what I am going up against, or could be (CSM - IW) would more plasma make sense? So plasma inceptors and Heavy Plasma Hellblasters with another full squad of Intercessors and then sprinkle some vehicles? How would one redemptor and one repulsor be? I'm using one Repulsor and one Redemptor regularly. It's not enough if your opponent brings any noteworthy anti-tank. They just melt against my regular AdMech opponent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5322090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I'm typically running 2 Repulsors and a Sicarian Venator. Lots of rounds between the the 3 Tanks and they are all mobile with no movement penalties for the BS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5322095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tholath Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 Okay, so I had a think and without knowing enough about the new Replusors I plan to hold on those just for a moment. So for the nest wave I have 3 ideas. All include another 10 Intercessors with then one of the following: Option A: 2 Inceptor Squads with Plasma Option B: 2 Redemptors (Likely Plasma) Option C: 2 Redemptors (HOC) I did half consider Option D: 1 Inceptor Squad (Either) & 10 Hellblasters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5322110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Redemptors are best with dual Gatling and storm bolters. Repulsors are pretty straight forward Flying tanks with transport. Lots of nice rules that give them a Tactical edge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5322126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tholath Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 Hmmm Okay so Intercessors for now and wait until end of June to see if we have any new info on the Repulsor and go from there I think. Thanks guys! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/356230-where-to-go-next/#findComment-5322236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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