Old/OOP models better than their updates

[Zephaniah Adriyen]

Love the finecast "Chaplain with Skull Helmet", especially for the aforementioned skull helmet. His Crozius seems too big to me (although it could be I'm just really used to looking at the Primaris one, with the more scepter-like Crozius) since it doesn't even fit in his hand, but it's a Crozius nonetheless. I'm planning on picking him up and kitbashing him with a Vanguard Veteran to make a Chaplain with Jump Pack. Only reason I'm not going with the actual BA Chaplain with Jump Pack is because I want him to look in-line with the rest of my Vanguard Veteran converted HQs when I do them.

[Halandaar]

The metal Power Armour Chaplains which made it to finecast (*spits*) were all better than any of the current plastic Chaplains. Better skull masks and less covered in robes/scrolls/stuff. Some of the new ones have cool design elements, but as a whole don't really really work for me.

 

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Conversely, I find most of those Chaplains (with the exception of the Terminator, which is admittedly pretty great) extremely derpy. All of them have Crozius' with a haft so thick they can't actually grip them properly, let alone use them as a weapon, nonsense poses (power hug) and various other issues. They certainly aren't a patch on the old Chaplains from 2nd edition, and I actually even prefer the newer plastic one.

[Lord Marshal]

You.

 

Versus the Commissar she tells you not to worry about.

 

[Gederas]

Yeah, I actually dislike all the old Chaplain models, barring the Terminator Chaplain, BECAUSE of the overly-thick Crozius haft.

 

And Halandaar also summed up my other issues with them: Some of them have really derpy poses. The only one I really like out of all of them is this one:

 

Because he's simple, effective and reads immediately as a Chaplain

[Zephaniah Adriyen]

You.

 

Versus the Commissar she tells you not to worry about.

 

That one really exudes the Commissar vibe I really like. "If you will not serve in combat, then you will serve on the firing line!"

 

Dawn of War 1 has the perfect quotes for practically every unit. Just sayin'.

[Beta galactosidase]

The metal Power Armour Chaplains which made it to finecast (*spits*) were all better than any of the current plastic Chaplains. Better skull masks and less covered in robes/scrolls/stuff. Some of the new ones have cool design elements, but as a whole don't really really work for me.

 

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The Primaris one doesn't even have a proper Crozius!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ksarkin are better than scions IMHO.

Yep, the previous spec-ops-ish ones too. Really liked their masks and the way they had loads of gar hanging off them

 

These are new models, they’re over decorated and I think they don’t have any character.

[Closet Skeleton]

Yeah, I actually dislike all the old Chaplain models, barring the Terminator Chaplain, BECAUSE of the overly-thick Crozius haft.

And Halandaar also summed up my other issues with them: Some of them have really derpy poses. The only one I really like out of all of them is this one:

Because he's simple, effective and reads immediately as a Chaplain

That guy is the one I went with as well.

My favorite chaplain is this 2nd edition guy:

But he's a bit on the small side.

[sockwithaticket]

Yeah, I actually dislike all the old Chaplain models, barring the Terminator Chaplain, BECAUSE of the overly-thick Crozius haft.

And Halandaar also summed up my other issues with them: Some of them have really derpy poses. The only one I really like out of all of them is this one:

Because he's simple, effective and reads immediately as a Chaplain

That guy is the one I went with as well.

My favorite chaplain is this 2nd edition guy:

But he's a bit on the small side.

He has far and away the best Crozius of any Chaplain ever. I picked one up on ebay for a few quid just to use that Crozius head.

[killersquid]

The only army I wish I had a pewter version of is the classic Necrons. But I still love the plastic kits. Everything else I prefer plastic over pewter.

[Stix]

When it comes to chaplains, non can match Lamartes. Fantastic sculpt!

[Kenzaburo]

I like the old Terminator Chaplain and Jump Pack Chaplain but the rest are a no-go for me and I really don't mind the Primaris one. Would be nice if he had a proper Crozius but eh there are worse things out there. An easy fix if you really care about it.

 

The newer Terminator Chaplain is one of the models where GW admitted that they overdid it with bling and one of the reasons why Primaris are starting out so clean looking so they can add bling to characters without them looking like this guy. ^^

Strangely enough, I kinda like the cluttered plastic terminator chaplain. Chaplains have always seemed so over-the-top for me, that him being covered in scrollwork never worried me. I just wish, he was easier to get a hold of. 

 

The old metal terminator chaplain is where it's at, though. I think no one ever disliked that mini.

[Jolemai]

Scouts /thread.

 

Actually, there's something else that occurred to me the other day and that's hair on Marines. For my ETL vow I'm painting Tycho (metal) and a conversion which uses Delassio's head (plastic). The plastic head (as with other plastic BA ones of late) are smooth on top with a few strands at the edges. This actually makes it tricky to paint to avoid it being flat whereas Tycho's hair has detail all over.

 

Never really appreciated it until now.

[Jukkiz]

Hmmm, i do like old SM veteran models, of all kind. Still have tyrannic ones unpainted but i mean those squads of four or five. One with power fist, one with power axe and plasmapistol and so on.

Chapter masters box was pretty awesome conversion idea mill, that came around when apocalypse was pushed in the game too. Yes, it´s still around, itseems. My bad!

[Magos Takatus]

 

The old metal terminator chaplain is where it's at, though. I think no one ever disliked that mini.

 

I remember painting his face with Boltgun metal and I tried using my brother's Tamiya smoke on it. He looked really intimidating with that dark metal mask. I did a similar helmet to the resin Terminator Chaplain too, this time using Scale 75's Black Metal.

[Kenzaburo]

Hmmm, i do like old SM veteran models, of all kind. Still have tyrannic ones unpainted but i mean those squads of four or five. One with power fist, one with power axe and plasmapistol and so on.

 

Chapter masters box was pretty awesome conversion idea mill, that came around when apocalypse was pushed in the game too. Yes, it´s still around, itseems. My bad!

Oh yeah, chapter masters wereand are still great. I always loved the master of recruits!

[Boytoy]

I'm quite partial to the new metal archon holding the flaming prism over the plastic one. Not a fan of the new crossed arms pose. I feel that the newish old one just exudes such character and really embodies the spirit of the dark eldar

[Magos Takatus]

Yeah, I painted the pyramid teabag guy for a leaving gift for a GW manager. I should have saved one for myself, that was a great model and I'm not that keen on the plastic one. I don't like the pose or the head.

[MegaVolt87]

Old DP, old chaplins, old dark apostle, old Karsikin (?) and old scouts are all way better. 

[SickSix]

I'm a Librarian Fanatic, so I own probably 15+ of various versions/conversions from various generations, and I absolute abhor the new/current model in Terminator armor. The standard Librarian with a staff is seriously lackluster minus using his bits for a conversion as well. I would take any of the Librarians from 3rd going forward over the current generation. Especially the old metal Terminator Librarian with a staff, and the series of metal libbies from the 4th and 5th ed generations.

 

Obviously the Primaris model is solid, but the current Librarian line as a whole is a complete bust to me. I would say the only exception to this would be the Blood Angels Terminator Librarian with a force axe. That is a fantastic model.

 

The old Metal Karskin Stomtroopers getting killed off was an absolute tragedy too. I have thought about picking up some from eBay and proxying them as Scions for Kill Team. The scions are okay, but don't hold a candle to these older models.

Definitely agree that all the plastic librarians fall short of their metal predecessors.

 

But using GK plastic troop kit you can make some pretty good librarian models.