redmapa Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Yes, Dreadnoughts do get Chapter Tactics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5355803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I think the fact that Chaos didn’t get chapter tactics on vehicles is a big indicator that marines won’t either. At this point I’d settle for them all ignoring the movement penalty for firing heavy weapons. Yea, I know and it's a shame. I still can't figure out why marine flavours are limited while stronger factions like eldar, nids and orks aren't. There's nothing theyd get that isn't comparable to other races. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5355838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I think the fact that Chaos didn’t get chapter tactics on vehicles is a big indicator that marines won’t either. At this point I’d settle for them all ignoring the movement penalty for firing heavy weapons. I can't help but agree. Plus, it's not like that would fix anything given some chapters have much more valuable tools than others. Being able to fall back and still shoot is worthless for the Repulsor family, for example. So is rerolls to charge, or advancing an extra 2", or the Emperor's Spears one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5355917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Just give us some good stratagems for our vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5355964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 *laughs in having a stratagem so good everyone wants it as a standard rule* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I think the fact that Chaos didn’t get chapter tactics on vehicles is a big indicator that marines won’t either. At this point I’d settle for them all ignoring the movement penalty for firing heavy weapons. I can't help but agree. Plus, it's not like that would fix anything given some chapters have much more valuable tools than others. Being able to fall back and still shoot is worthless for the Repulsor family, for example. So is rerolls to charge, or advancing an extra 2", or the Emperor's Spears one. It really depends on the codex. If it's a dedicated Primaris book I can see them changing things up significantly and applying tactics to everything, and also rolling BA, DA and SW in the mix. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I think the fact that Chaos didn’t get chapter tactics on vehicles is a big indicator that marines won’t either. At this point I’d settle for them all ignoring the movement penalty for firing heavy weapons. I can't help but agree. Plus, it's not like that would fix anything given some chapters have much more valuable tools than others. Being able to fall back and still shoot is worthless for the Repulsor family, for example. So is rerolls to charge, or advancing an extra 2", or the Emperor's Spears one. It really depends on the codex. If it's a dedicated Primaris book I can see them changing things up significantly and applying tactics to everything, and also rolling BA, DA and SW in the mix. Hmm, I'm not sure I understand the point of that. There aren't any Primaris versions of the very units that make those armies distinct from their codex counterparts. I'd really rather those armies drift even further from the codex side than fold into the Ultramarine codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Tomorrow is the big day! I wonder if we will have more previews other than the vanguard units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate_wars Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Looking forward to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel_danes Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Tomorrow is the big day! I wonder if we will have more previews other than the vanguard units. I'm dumb, what's going on Saturday? Just another weekly chance at sneak peaks, or an event specifically stated for reveals? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Tomorrow is the big day! I wonder if we will have more previews other than the vanguard units. I really hope there's a new campaign rolled with this. I want plot advancement! I want deaths! I want another loyal primarch! Will I get anything, no! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Tomorrow is the big day! I wonder if we will have more previews other than the vanguard units. I'm dumb, what's going on Saturday? Just another weekly chance at sneak peaks, or an event specifically stated for reveals?Genco 40k previews at 9 BST. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Casman Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Tomorrow is the big day! I wonder if we will have more previews other than the vanguard units. I'm dumb, what's going on Saturday? Just another weekly chance at sneak peaks, or an event specifically stated for reveals? GW is holding a 40k preview after the big Apocalypse event at Warhammer World. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Tomorrow is the big day! I wonder if we will have more previews other than the vanguard units. I really hope there's a new campaign rolled with this. I want plot advancement! I want deaths! I want another loyal primarch! Will I get anything, no! Obviously not. We will get the vanguard dudes, IH dude and Primaris Tigurius ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Tomorrow is the big day! I wonder if we will have more previews other than the vanguard units. I'm dumb, what's going on Saturday? Just another weekly chance at sneak peaks, or an event specifically stated for reveals?Genco 40k previews at 9 BST. Gencon was yesterday with reveals of Aeronautica Imperialis and some other specialty game stuff. This weekend will be the biggest game of 40k Apocalypse ever and will host a sweet studio preview. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Tomorrow is the big day! I wonder if we will have more previews other than the vanguard units. I'm dumb, what's going on Saturday? Just another weekly chance at sneak peaks, or an event specifically stated for reveals?Genco 40k previews at 9 BST.Gencon was yesterday with reveals of Aeronautica Imperialis and some other specialty game stuff. This weekend will be the biggest game of 40k Apocalypse ever and will host a sweet studio preview. I stand corrected. Warcom banner said genco, and I put them together;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I am just expecting multipart kits for shadowspear and the tank thing and dread thing. That way I avoid disappointment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I'm expecting: -New Codex -Primaris Tiggy -New Lieutenant -Multipart Infiltrators -Multipart Eliminators -New Vehicle -New Dread Not sure if we'll see: -Iron Hands character -Other characters -Multipart Suppressors Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I'm expecting: -New Codex -Primaris Tiggy -New Lieutenant -Multipart Infiltrators -Multipart Eliminators -New Vehicle -New Dread Not sure if we'll see: -Iron Hands character -Other characters -Multipart Suppressors About the same for me, but I think they'll answer the question of how players will get that Hand Flamer bit for the sergeants (either repacking the Intercessors kit - which I highly doubt - or just giving all chapters access to a new upgrade sprue with the existing melee options, power axe, power maul, and hand flamer in one handy spot). Beyond that, I'd really like to have at least a teaser about the next campaign setting, but I wouldn't bet on it happening. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I'm expecting: -New Codex -Primaris Tiggy -New Lieutenant -Multipart Infiltrators -Multipart Eliminators -New Vehicle -New Dread Not sure if we'll see: -Iron Hands character -Other characters -Multipart Suppressors Add limited editions Limited cover variations - Raven gaurd - white scars - Ultras - iron hands - imperial dists Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Remember that time we were getting Primaris Telion? Just saying, don't get your hopes (or fears) up over a new Tigurius. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate_wars Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 About the same for me, but I think they'll answer the question of how players will get that Hand Flamer bit for the sergeants (either repacking the Intercessors kit - which I highly doubt - or just giving all chapters access to a new upgrade sprue with the existing melee options, power axe, power maul, and hand flamer in one handy spot). Beyond that, I'd really like to have at least a teaser about the next campaign setting, but I wouldn't bet on it happening. I expect the hand flamer to belong to the Salamander upgrade sprue like the Imperial Fist got the power fist for their upgrade sprue if they don’t release a sergeant sprue for all chapters to use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel_danes Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Remember that time we were getting Primaris Telion? Just saying, don't get your hopes (or fears) up over a new Tigurius. I do. And the Shadowspear model looks great, and the Phobos Cpt. rules play very similar to Telion. I'd consider it a win if we get a Tigurius-esqe Primaris Librarian without it being chapter locked. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 About the same for me, but I think they'll answer the question of how players will get that Hand Flamer bit for the sergeants (either repacking the Intercessors kit - which I highly doubt - or just giving all chapters access to a new upgrade sprue with the existing melee options, power axe, power maul, and hand flamer in one handy spot). Beyond that, I'd really like to have at least a teaser about the next campaign setting, but I wouldn't bet on it happening. I expect the hand flamer to belong to the Salamander upgrade sprue like the Imperial Fist got the power fist for their upgrade sprue if they don’t release a sergeant sprue for all chapters to use. I hope they don't do that - not only is it putting an undue extra burden on customers to have to pick up those individual chapter upgrade kits that may only have a single bit of interest to anyone outside that chapter, but in the case of the Imperial Fists sprue, the power fist bit came with an obnoxious chapter icon that non-Fists players either had to ignore or sand off (and that's beside the fact that they managed to print the icon backwards on that bit, so even Fists players weren't happy with it). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Remember that time we were getting Primaris Telion? Just saying, don't get your hopes (or fears) up over a new Tigurius. Yeah, and he was actually designed as Telion before GW decided to make him a generic character. We don't need ANOTHER generic Librarian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/14/#findComment-5356710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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