momerathe Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Here's a thought: Simply pick two Successor Tactics from the long list of awesome choices included in the codex and you’re good to go! Why "two"? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Here's a thought: Simply pick two Successor Tactics from the long list of awesome choices included in the codex and you’re good to go! Why "two"? One for general units, the other for vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Wow they did do a primaris Tiggy, Ishagu called it all along! Right - just a complete coincidence that he never mentioned Tigurius until right after a post of mine predicting the same thing. (Page 12 of this thread). Coincidence. Totally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
momerathe Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Here's a thought: Simply pick two Successor Tactics from the long list of awesome choices included in the codex and you’re good to go! Why "two"? One for general units, the other for vehicles. That's what I was thinking. Fingers crossed. Odd that CSM didn't get that though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Wow they did do a primaris Tiggy, Ishagu called it all along! Right - just a complete coincidence that he never mentioned Tigurius until right after a post of mine predicting the same thing. (Page 12 of this thread). Coincidence. Totally. Oh I'm not claiming I was the first to guess. I actually saw the images quite late. It simply looked like Tigurius! On the other hand, I did announce a few months back that Marines are getting a second tier of vehicle chapter tactics. My topic was even closed until more info came out. Well, here you go Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Love the idea of getting Codex Ultramarines (of course). Not interested in Primaris but damn that Tigurius is an improvement on the last model (which was terrible). Khan is not as good as the previous but still a good model. Not sure on the Power Loader. Looks okay but not sure on the point for Marines? Rules will be interesting. New Strategums ahoy. Hopefully Classic Marines won't be left behind. I use Classic Tigurius so wondering where we will stand with that? I presume I can use Index Tigurius because Index is never obsolete completely but what about previous Codex Tigurius? Points values? I'm guessing it's a no. Tigurius is Primaris or nothing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurica Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I was hoping for transhuman physiology but +1A seems to be more useful (?) even for my tactical marines. Might seem worth while to give my sergeants melee weapon upgrades? hmmm Vehicles getting CT fantastic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 The shock assault isnt what I hoped for but I wont kick a gift horse in the mouth. Stoked though for the new codex, ultras supplement and tigerius. The models look ace too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
momerathe Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I wonder if they're going to release an IH supplement with a grand total of one data sheet in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Love the idea of getting Codex Ultramarines (of course). Not interested in Primaris but damn that Tigurius is an improvement on the last model (which was terrible). Khan is not as good as the previous but still a good model. Not sure on the Power Loader. Looks okay but not sure on the point for Marines? Rules will be interesting. New Strategums ahoy. Hopefully Classic Marines won't be left behind. I use Classic Tigurius so wondering where we will stand with that? I presume I can use Index Tigurius because Index is never obsolete completely but what about previous Codex Tigurius? Points values? I'm guessing it's a no. Tigurius is Primaris or nothing? It’s like Terminator Calgar, just depends on when the game is set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Hopefully. I love my 2nd edition model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Their restriction on taking only one is done by keyword, for example Marneus Calgar can't be taken in multiples, so you can't have both index versions and primarneus. So same thing with prigerius and rubikhan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 What good is the timey-wimey warp rift if we can’t take 2nd Edition, 4th Edition, and Primarneus all in the same game ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Insert the Spider-Man meme of calgar all pointing at himself Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5357906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Have they said anything that would lead us to believe weather or not firstborn are in the new codex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5358022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Here's a thought: Simply pick two Successor Tactics from the long list of awesome choices included in the codex and you’re good to go! Why "two"? One for general units, the other for vehicles. I would have thought that the two may be more like a benefit and burden system, a la 4th edition, or custom Freeblade knights? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5358031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Have they said anything that would lead us to believe weather or not firstborn are in the new codex? they will be, by simple fact that firstborn vehicles are. ------------- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5358071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Have they said anything that would lead us to believe weather or not firstborn are in the new codex? The white scars supplement has a khan on a bike so yeah they're there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5358074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 There is 7 litanies of battle in the new datacards. What is a litany of battle? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5358075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I think it's like psyker powers for Chaplains. The article says the Chaplains bellow them out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5358086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just read that as well. I had hoped for that. Als three doctrines. Hopefully some ways to adapt the army to your favoured play style (read: glorius zealous melee) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5358092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joukernaut Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I'm having flashbacks to seventh edition with the combat doctrines (tactical doctrine, assault doctrine, devastator doctrine) from the gladius strike force. I'm loving the chaplain litanies, I hope they are useful, but if they resemble anything like the chaos ones, they will be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5358129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Have they said anything that would lead us to believe weather or not firstborn are in the new codex? Pre-order article says 76 datasheets, which is far more than if it were Primaris only. There is 7 litanies of battle in the new datacards. What is a litany of battle? I think it's like psyker powers for Chaplains. The article says the Chaplains bellow them out. Weirdly enough, the article says "Litanies of Faith that can be bellowed forth by the Chaplains" but then the data cards paragraph refer to them as "Litanies of Battle". Are they the same thing? Further, what in the blazes could Combat Doctrines refer to? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5358141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Oh, maybe I confused the two, and they're different things? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5358143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Oh, maybe I confused the two, and they're different things? Completely unknown lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/18/#findComment-5358154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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