Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 New Stalker? have I missed something? Edit: Seen. Dayum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5358999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hantheman Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 No changes to DA/SW/BA/DW chapter tactics according to GW facebook. Sigh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 No changes to DA/SW/BA/DW chapter tactics according to GW facebook. Sigh. This isn't their codex, in fairness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hantheman Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 No changes to DA/SW/BA/DW chapter tactics according to GW facebook. Sigh. This isn't their codex, in fairness. Yeah but I can't imagine they're going to re-release those codexes. The fact they're changing how those chapters get datasheets but not bothered to change any of them says that to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 No changes to DA/SW/BA/DW chapter tactics according to GW facebook. Sigh. This isn't their codex, in fairness. To be fair, the announcement implied it would in fact be their codex too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 No changes to DA/SW/BA/DW chapter tactics according to GW facebook. Sigh. This isn't their codex, in fairness.To be fair, the announcement implied it would in fact be their codex too.I reckon they will come later on with their supplement new CT and new Primaris chars. And who knows maybe new Primaris units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I think it will impact all the books significantly but I'm fully expecting a dedicated BA, DA and SW book unless they go the route of supplements which would be better, I think, and would be quicker potentially. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Salamanders is the best? Same reroll, but also ignore -1 AP on ranged weapons Not just Ranged weapons. All weapons, even in Melee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hantheman Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Salamanders is the best? Same reroll, but also ignore -1 AP on ranged weapons Not just Ranged weapons. All weapons, even in Melee. That's SO strong Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Yeah, it is really good. The first part of that Tactic is just as before, and it was great. Now a bunch of AP-1 weapons fall to the wayside. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Salamanders is the best? Same reroll, but also ignore -1 AP on ranged weapons Not just Ranged weapons. All weapons, even in Melee. That's SO strong Just like Vulkan. I must say, even if some of ya'll say BT CT is not the best for me, with Angels of Death, Reroll charges (1 or 2 dice) and ignoring mortal wounds on a 5+, Oh my dudes. I just need to know if we are getting some other buff to complement the lack of filthy witches, and even so I'm good to go. Give me a Primaris Helbrecth and Emperor Champion and let the crusade continue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluejayJunior Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 From the end of the article "** If you’re a fan of the Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Grey Knights or Deathwatch, don’t worry – you can look forward to official rules updates coming soon via free PDF download. And remember, you Heretic Astartes players out there will also be gaining Shock Assault for your units in a similar update!" So updated Chapter Tactics could be out for them sooner than later. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robofish7591 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Since it seems like everyone is getting a psychic discipline in their supplements, if the templars don't get vows in theirs then there really is no justice in the world. Also, since it sounds like this codex is going to be for every marine chapter, the PDF could contain all the unique units as a holdover until the appropriate supplement is released. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I think it will impact all the books significantly but I'm fully expecting a dedicated BA, DA and SW book unless they go the route of supplements which would be better, I think, and would be quicker potentially. supplement would be better, no idea what their plan is, feels pretty bad to make it something BA/DA/Wolves may need to purchase if most of it isn't usable for us. Weird. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Yeah, I agree. I only hope that whatever they ultimately do it gets updated quickly for everyone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Obviously biased in this, but I really hope the Emperor's Spears and Blood Ravens get a FAQ updating their chapter tactics after the Crimson Fists got a better version of Bolter Drill integrated for free Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Doesn't the Blood Raven chapter article say that you can use any chapter tactic if you don't like their exclusive one? I'd give them the Salamander rules and dance a jig. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Doesn't the Blood Raven chapter article say that you can use any chapter tactic if you don't like their exclusive one? I'd give them the Salamander rules and dance a jig. Sure it does. But what's the point in having your own rules if you're going to keep on using the other guys'? Especially since almost everyone's got supercharged Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 But they keep the unique character, key word, and can pick and chose the best CT? It's not ideal but it's not as bad as it could be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 But they keep the unique character, key word, and can pick and chose the best CT? It's not ideal but it's not as bad as it could be. I'm not focussed on good or bad really. In theory they're one of the best since you can tool your trait. As always, I just want parity. Especially since the crimson fists got updated Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just thinking... Imperial Fists are in an unique situation where the 2 main sucessors have their own chapter tactics. We also know the events of the war of the beast. So what would be fair? Imperial Fists supplement, or Sons of Dorn supplement Last Wall style. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Sons of Dorn, ideally. And release the supplament with big model support. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 An Imperial Fists supplement because the whole ‘Last Wall’ thing is an internet meme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Captain Vyper Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just thinking... Imperial Fists are in an unique situation where the 2 main sucessors have their own chapter tactics. We also know the events of the war of the beast. So what would be fair? Imperial Fists supplement, or Sons of Dorn supplement Last Wall style. I haven't read War of the Beast, but I hope they name the Supplement "Sons of Dorn" That sounds so much cooler than Supplement: Imperial Fists, and it gives a nod to the Templars (and CFs), who arguably are more popular (Templars anyway) than their "Parent" chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Templars really honestly need their own supplement, they are so divergent from any other chapter save the wolves that it only makes sense. That said, I would be extremely surprised if GW did that. More likely we will be in the IF book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357173-codex-space-marines-20-speculation-discussion/page/20/#findComment-5359252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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