wulfgar hammerfist Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I recently acquired a few knights for a really great price so naturally I'd like to see what I can do with them. I now have: Valiant Crusader w/RFBC Gallant Paladin 2 Helverins I'm considering converting the paladin into a second gallant. What combination of knights and guard do you think would work well together for ITC play? Any advice on which household to go with? I was thinking Hawkshroud since these are mostly aggressive knights that need to get up field. Any advice is appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Most ITC that I have seen are not just Knights but soup with loyal troops(Guard or even Marine scouts). But since all the changes in the last month with the Castellan being increased in points and "I, wha? what does it all mean" changes to all the Forge World Knights I have no idea what the Knight builds are right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5359874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I recently acquired a few knights for a really great price so naturally I'd like to see what I can do with them. I now have: Valiant Crusader w/RFBC Gallant Paladin 2 Helverins I'm considering converting the paladin into a second gallant. What combination of knights and guard do you think would work well together for ITC play? Any advice on which household to go with? I was thinking Hawkshroud since these are mostly aggressive knights that need to get up field. Any advice is appreciated. Hawkshroud will get the best mileage out of your valiant I would try double Batallions of Guard and 3 big knights Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5360296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulfgar hammerfist Posted August 6, 2019 Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 Thanks for the replies. Three knights with double Guard battalions seems like the way to go. I've been looking at Junior Aflleje's list as it seems solid. Flyer spam seems like it would be an issue and maybe GSC, particularly abberants. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5360352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I'm considering converting the paladin into a second gallant. <snip> Any advice is appreciated. So, you are going to replace an Optimal with something..... else? Bleh. The machine spirit may be resistant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5364202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Krash Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Are you saying the Paladin is better than the Gallent? Krash Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5366815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Are you saying the Paladin is better than the Gallent? Krash Calling a Paladin an Optimal is not my idea but I do like mine, a lot. I don't use a Gallant. I can't see not having a good gun being worth an extra attack in melee. I understand that I'm in the minority in this by what I see online. Seems folks like the specialist Knights over the balanced. I suppose it could be an ITC thing or just competitive min maxing. He already has a Gallant so maybe having more options would be better but that's probably just my Highlander tendency talking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5369519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 It isn't just the attack though, its that sweet 2+ WS :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5371440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I’m convinced for my area that Gallants are a liability - for competitive play. A smart opponent just screens them out and he spends his time not earning his points back I’ve experimented with wardens to mixed results. Crusaders seem to be the most reliable. If you need melee unleash the happy feet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5371455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulfgar hammerfist Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 I think triple Crusaders is really strong right now but I don't have that many right now. I am playing in a small RTT on Sunday and I'm probably bringing something close to this: Hawkshroud (maybe Mortan because of PBs and flyers) Valiant Crusader, RFBC, Ironstorm Gallant 2× Helverins Loyal 32 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5371722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Go with Hawkshroud, that actually sounds like a fun list. Mortan will be amazing if you get the right matchup but only so so for others. A Hawkshroud Valiant with the relic flamer is an amazing thing to behold. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5371797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 A Hawkshroud Valiant with the relic flamer is an amazing thing to behold. I'm a bit rusty on my IK. Why is Hawkshroud so great for a unit that doesn't care much about scaling BS (ie. the flamer autohits)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5378094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhorneHunter57x Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 A Hawkshroud Valiant with the relic flamer is an amazing thing to behold. I'm a bit rusty on my IK. Why is Hawkshroud so great for a unit that doesn't care much about scaling BS (ie. the flamer autohits)? House Hawkshroud has an 'Overwatch for Friendlies' Stratagem. The Valiant's flamer puts the 'gem' in 'stratagem' in that case, and I've been tempted to get a pair of Valiants and run them up the field together, giving one the relic flamer and the other Blessed by the Sacristans on the flamer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5378659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Every time someone talks about how great that flamer is and how it stops assault, my Ordo Malleus, =][= Lord, with the Terror psychic power knows his spot in my list is secure. There are times when I question the inclusion of my namesake model. But things like this are reassuring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357519-starting-knights/#findComment-5383016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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