Imperial Fists Successor Chapter Name Help

[Aothaine]

Need some help with a successor chapter name. This is the color scheme I'm thinking of going with. Not sure if I want to keep the hands white or if I'll go with coloring them in the yellow/black like the Quartered scheme. 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/sm/bpe=EEFF00&bpj=EEFF00&bp=EEFF00&bpc=EEFF00&hdt=EEFF00&hdm=EEFF00&hdl=EEFF00&ey=1EFF00&er=EEFF00&pi=575757&nk=EEFF00&ch=EEFF00&eg=000000&sk=000000&abs=EEFF00&bt=EEFF00&cod=EEFF00&ull=EEFF00&lk=EEFF00&lll=EEFF00&lft=EEFF00&url=000000&rk=000000&lrl=000000&rft=000000&slt=EEFF00&sli=000000&srt=000000&sri=EEFF00&ula=000000&lel=000000&lla=000000&lw=000000&lh=FFFFFF&ura=EEFF00&rel=EEFF00&rla=EEFF00&rw=EEFF00&rh=FFFFFF&bg=FFFFFF&rb=575757&gr=FFFFFF&qu=000000&wg=true&comi=FFFFFF&imperialfistpad=true&mk6kn=true&/spacemarine.jpg

 

Anyway what are some names for a chapter that looks like this? First name I thought of was maybe Alabaster Fists. But if I color the fists with the black and yellow. I'm not sure though.

 

I know that the chapter will specialize in ground pounding and anti-infantry. Both Intercessor and the Old Boys. I do want to run with the Imperial Fists Chapter Tactic though. I think there is a way to do that. 

 

Anyway, thank you in advance for any suggestions!

[Bjorn Firewalker]

The Chapter colors you chose were also used to represent the Russian and Austrian Empires, in addition to Reikland, so how about a reference to them or their royal families, e.g., "Talons of the Aquila", "Knights Griffon" (the griffin was used to represent Austria in the Habsburg coat of arms), or "Deathclaws"?

[Boldthreat]

Any chance you are open to flipping the scheme? The reason I say is if you have the black Pauldron on the left side... then paint your Fist and Roundal white. (I’m assuming you are using the imperial Fist badge per your name ideas).

 

Then keep the White Fists or just have it on the black side. As a name... I say Argent Fists or Fists Argent.

 

My opinion anyway.

[Aothaine]

The Chapter colors you chose were also used to represent the Russian and Austrian Empires, in addition to Reikland, so how about a reference to them or their royal families, e.g., "Talons of the Aquila", "Knights Griffon" (the griffin was used to represent Austria in the Habsburg coat of arms), or "Deathclaws"?

 

Ohhhh thank you! I will look into that time period for sure now to think up a decent name!

 

Any chance you are open to flipping the scheme? The reason I say is if you have the black Pauldron on the left side... then paint your Fist and Roundal white. (I’m assuming you are using the imperial Fist badge per your name ideas).

 

Then keep the White Fists or just have it on the black side. As a name... I say Argent Fists or Fists Argent.

 

My opinion anyway.

 

I am completely fine with swapping the quartered color. That is an excellent idea to get the white fist on the black shoulder guard. Below is a new workup of it. 

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/sm/bpe=000000&bpj=000000&bp=000000&bpc=000000&hdt=000000&hdm=000000&hdl=000000&ey=1EFF00&er=000000&pi=545353&nk=000000&ch=000000&eg=545353&sk=545353&abs=000000&bt=000000&cod=000000&ull=000000&lk=000000&lll=000000&lft=000000&url=FCFC00&rk=FCFC00&lrl=FCFC00&rft=FCFC00&slt=000000&sli=FCFC00&srt=FCFC00&sri=000000&ula=FCFC00&lel=FCFC00&lla=FCFC00&lw=FCFC00&lh=FFFCFC&ura=000000&rel=000000&rla=000000&rw=000000&rh=FFFFFF&bg=1C1C1C&rb=545353&gr=FFFFFF&qu=FCFC00&wg=true&comi=FFFFFF&imperialfistpad=true&pfr=FFFFFF&/spacemarine.jpg

 

So the chapter badge and the battle role badge colors will be inverted so that the fist on the left shoulder pad will be white and the battle role will be black. All weapon panels will be white.

 

Ohhh what do you all think about this name? Sterling Fists

 

Sterling is a synonym for pure. According to Merriam-webster, one definition of Sterling is: conforming to the highest standard. I like it!

 

Sterling Fists it is! 

[Bjorn Firewalker]

Suggested inspiration for the Chapter culture: Cossacks.

Doesn't this image scream, "We bring the Emperor's justice to all His enemies!"?

[Aothaine]

Finding power swords that look like that is going to be tough. But! It doesn't look like I'll need to many of them. I am pretty sure I'm going to make these guys an Ultima Founding chapter. So I'll only need a few for the Captains and Lieutenants.

[Bjorn Firewalker]

I think "Silver Fists" is a better name, as "Sterling" seems passive. Emphasize the fact the name refers to a weapon- what the Marines see themselves as, in the Emperor and the Lord Regent's hands.

[Aothaine]

I think "Silver Fists" is a better name, as "Sterling" seems passive. Emphasize the fact the name refers to a weapon- what the Marines see themselves as, in the Emperor and the Lord Regent's hands.

 

You think so? Silver and Sterling seem pretty similar to me. I was trying to link the white fists with something. I know that I do not want to paint the fists silver though. Maybe I'll keep thinking on the name. Thank you for your opinion btw! :D

[Bjorn Firewalker]

Sterling is a synonym for pure.

That's the problem. Your Marines were made to get their hands dirty in the execution of their orders, all of which should be given to protect the Imperium and the humans it shielded; trying to stay "pure" while fighting a bloody war, implies squeamishness.

[Boldthreat]

I think it’s how you frame it. Whilst it’s dirty, bloody work they do indeed, their hands being symbolically white (as pure) could indicate that they believe the works they are doing are pure in intent. Killing the heretic, the mutant, and the alien is a pure work, divinely inspired even.

 

“With these Fists, we will do the pure and divine work of He who sits on Terra”!

 

Then you could do something with that. Maybe censured warriors have their hands removed or at least painted another color in shame. Only through deeds of faithful sacrifice can they earn it back.

 

Kind of like the biblical idea that if your hand causes you to sin, better to cast it off kind of thing. A literal interpretation of that is paramount to this cult.

 

I’d be interested if you are keeping white helms as a symbol of veterancy? That would look cool and could play into the cult as well.

 

I get the idea behind Sterling. It fits thematically. I would urge the switch to Argent in that case. Argent is considered silver or a white metal, and in heraldry it can be used synonymously with white (even though that’s disputed historically). Sterling to me sounds off though. It could be because the word carries some unfair connotations to me. It doesn’t seem like it carries enough Gravitas with it.

 

My opinion though. You have to be happy with it and that is all that matters.

[Bjorn Firewalker]

I think it’s how you frame it. Whilst it’s dirty, bloody work they do indeed, their hands being symbolically white (as pure) could indicate that they believe the works they are doing are pure in intent. Killing the heretic, the mutant, and the alien is a pure work, divinely inspired even.

 

“With these Fists, we will do the pure and divine work of He who sits on Terra”!

 

Then you could do something with that. Maybe censured warriors have their hands removed or at least painted another color in shame. Only through deeds of faithful sacrifice can they earn it back.

 

Kind of like the biblical idea that if your hand causes you to sin, better to cast it off kind of thing. A literal interpretation of that is paramount to this cult.

Well said. Say sinners must make do with augmetic hands, while those redeemed of their sin will get vat-grown (cloned) hands as replacements for what they cut off in penance?

 

Of course, this may lead to conflicts with the Iron Hands and their successors, if the Chapter's leaders EPIC FAIL in diplomacy.

[Aothaine]

I think it’s how you frame it. Whilst it’s dirty, bloody work they do indeed, their hands being symbolically white (as pure) could indicate that they believe the works they are doing are pure in intent. Killing the heretic, the mutant, and the alien is a pure work, divinely inspired even.

 

“With these Fists, we will do the pure and divine work of He who sits on Terra”!

 

Then you could do something with that. Maybe censured warriors have their hands removed or at least painted another color in shame. Only through deeds of faithful sacrifice can they earn it back.

 

Kind of like the biblical idea that if your hand causes you to sin, better to cast it off kind of thing. A literal interpretation of that is paramount to this cult.

 

I’d be interested if you are keeping white helms as a symbol of veterancy? That would look cool and could play into the cult as well.

 

I get the idea behind Sterling. It fits thematically. I would urge the switch to Argent in that case. Argent is considered silver or a white metal, and in heraldry it can be used synonymously with white (even though that’s disputed historically). Sterling to me sounds off though. It could be because the word carries some unfair connotations to me. It doesn’t seem like it carries enough Gravitas with it.

 

My opinion though. You have to be happy with it and that is all that matters.

 

This is perfect! Thank you so much! Also, I love the idea of using Argent! The Argent Fists sounds pretty damn good to me! The idea about keeping the veteran's helms white fits perfectly into the theme as well. I'll do up some paintings of the different ranks and post it in my WiP thread. Thank you so much for the ideas!

 

 

Well said. Say sinners must make do with augmetic hands, while those redeemed of their sin will get vat-grown (cloned) hands as replacements for what they cut off in penance?

 

Of course, this may lead to conflicts with the Iron Hands and their successors, if the Chapter's leaders EPIC FAIL in diplomacy.

 

I do like this idea as well! I don't mind being in conflict with the Iron Hands. Their desire to replace what the emperor gave them would have to be borderline heresy to the Argent Fists. However, since it is also a sign of shame to the Argent Fists they feel that the Iron Hands could redeem themselves and when encountering them or their successors the Argent Fists go out of their way to subtly help them regain honor in the hopes that they would then give up the idea of trying to remove what the emperor gave them. This obviously will not change with the Iron Fists. But it will make for some really good interactions between the two Space Marine chapters. 

 

I knew posting this on here was a good idea. Thank you so much for the ideas! I hope you don't mind if I use them. 

[Bjorn Firewalker]

Alternative ritual for penitents: Finger shortening.

In Japanese swordsmanship, or Kendo, the little finger's grip is the tightest on the hilt. A little finger-amputee was therefore unable to grip his sword properly, weakening him in battle and making him more dependent on the protection of his boss.

A shortened finger (visible as inactive components on power armor gauntlets) is a sign the Chapter's leaders do not trust the sinner to act on his own. The redeemed get vat-grown fingers to replace those they cut off.

[Bjorn Firewalker]

 

 

Any chance you are open to flipping the scheme? The reason I say is if you have the black Pauldron on the left side... then paint your Fist and Roundal white. (I’m assuming you are using the imperial Fist badge per your name ideas).

 

Then keep the White Fists or just have it on the black side. As a name... I say Argent Fists or Fists Argent.

 

My opinion anyway.

I am completely fine with swapping the quartered color. That is an excellent idea to get the white fist on the black shoulder guard. Below is a new workup of it.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/sm/bpe=000000&bpj=000000&bp=000000&bpc=000000&hdt=000000&hdm=000000&hdl=000000&ey=1EFF00&er=000000&pi=545353&nk=000000&ch=000000&eg=545353&sk=545353&abs=000000&bt=000000&cod=000000&ull=000000&lk=000000&lll=000000&lft=000000&url=FCFC00&rk=FCFC00&lrl=FCFC00&rft=FCFC00&slt=000000&sli=FCFC00&srt=FCFC00&sri=000000&ula=FCFC00&lel=FCFC00&lla=FCFC00&lw=FCFC00&lh=FFFCFC&ura=000000&rel=000000&rla=000000&rw=000000&rh=FFFFFF&bg=1C1C1C&rb=545353&gr=FFFFFF&qu=FCFC00&wg=true&comi=FFFFFF&imperialfistpad=true&pfr=FFFFFF&/spacemarine.jpg

So the chapter badge and the battle role badge colors will be inverted so that the fist on the left shoulder pad will be white and the battle role will be black.

As you are reversing the Imperial Fists Chapter symbol colors to be white fists in a black circle, I think the left quarter (the one whose pauldron bears the Chapter symbol) should be yellow, so the Chapter symbol will stand out. Reserve the reversed Chapter colors for those who must bear the Chapter symbol on the right pauldron, i.e., Terminators.

All weapon panels will be white.

A gun's top panel should be black, to reduce glare and allow the gunsights to be clearly seen. On oversized weapons, e.g., lascannons and missile launchers, the black panel should be the side facing its wielder.

[Boldthreat]

 

I think it’s how you frame it. Whilst it’s dirty, bloody work they do indeed, their hands being symbolically white (as pure) could indicate that they believe the works they are doing are pure in intent. Killing the heretic, the mutant, and the alien is a pure work, divinely inspired even.

 

“With these Fists, we will do the pure and divine work of He who sits on Terra”!

 

Then you could do something with that. Maybe censured warriors have their hands removed or at least painted another color in shame. Only through deeds of faithful sacrifice can they earn it back.

 

Kind of like the biblical idea that if your hand causes you to sin, better to cast it off kind of thing. A literal interpretation of that is paramount to this cult.

Well said. Say sinners must make do with augmetic hands, while those redeemed of their sin will get vat-grown (cloned) hands as replacements for what they cut off in penance?

 

Of course, this may lead to conflicts with the Iron Hands and their successors, if the Chapter's leaders EPIC FAIL in diplomacy.

I love the vat grown hand part. It’s a foil to the Iron Hands dogma of the Flesh is Weak. The genewrought flesh is the Emperor is stronger than Iron! And I’m always up for intra chapter conflicts!

[Boldthreat]

 

 

 

Any chance you are open to flipping the scheme? The reason I say is if you have the black Pauldron on the left side... then paint your Fist and Roundal white. (I’m assuming you are using the imperial Fist badge per your name ideas).

 

Then keep the White Fists or just have it on the black side. As a name... I say Argent Fists or Fists Argent.

 

My opinion anyway.

I am completely fine with swapping the quartered color. That is an excellent idea to get the white fist on the black shoulder guard. Below is a new workup of it.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/sm/bpe=000000&bpj=000000&bp=000000&bpc=000000&hdt=000000&hdm=000000&hdl=000000&ey=1EFF00&er=000000&pi=545353&nk=000000&ch=000000&eg=545353&sk=545353&abs=000000&bt=000000&cod=000000&ull=000000&lk=000000&lll=000000&lft=000000&url=FCFC00&rk=FCFC00&lrl=FCFC00&rft=FCFC00&slt=000000&sli=FCFC00&srt=FCFC00&sri=000000&ula=FCFC00&lel=FCFC00&lla=FCFC00&lw=FCFC00&lh=FFFCFC&ura=000000&rel=000000&rla=000000&rw=000000&rh=FFFFFF&bg=1C1C1C&rb=545353&gr=FFFFFF&qu=FCFC00&wg=true&comi=FFFFFF&imperialfistpad=true&pfr=FFFFFF&/spacemarine.jpg

So the chapter badge and the battle role badge colors will be inverted so that the fist on the left shoulder pad will be white and the battle role will be black.

As you are reversing the Imperial Fists Chapter symbol colors to be white fists in a black circle, I think the left quarter (the one whose pauldron bears the Chapter symbol) should be yellow, so the Chapter symbol will stand out. Reserve the reversed Chapter colors for those who must bear the Chapter symbol on the right pauldron, i.e., Terminators.

All weapon panels will be white.

A gun's top panel should be black, to reduce glare and allow the gunsights to be clearly seen. On oversized weapons, e.g., lascannons and missile launchers, the black panel should be the side facing its wielder.

After reading this, I think he’s right. If you do a black background with a white Fist and white roundel it would pop if you come back to your original scheme.

[Aothaine]

As you are reversing the Imperial Fists Chapter symbol colors to be white fists in a black circle, I think the left quarter (the one whose pauldron bears the Chapter symbol) should be yellow, so the Chapter symbol will stand out. Reserve the reversed Chapter colors for those who must bear the Chapter symbol on the right pauldron, i.e., Terminators.

All weapon panels will be white.

A gun's top panel should be black, to reduce glare and allow the gunsights to be clearly seen. On oversized weapons, e.g., lascannons and missile launchers, the black panel should be the side facing its wielder.

 

 

Sounds good! I'll reverse the chapter quartered colors again. Yellow on the left top half and black on the top right half. The chapter symbol will be a white fist in a white circle and the veterans will get a white fist in a white circle on both sides. Also I will make the top panel on smaller firearms black and the side panels white. Heavy weaponry will have a black panel on the side facing the marine and white on the top and outside facing panel. There will be exceptions but any weapon requiring a sight will have a black panel where the sight is.

 

 

 

After reading this, I think he’s right. If you do a black background with a white Fist and white roundel it would pop if you come back to your original scheme.

 

Yeah I agree. 

 

Thank you everyone for all the help is trying to design my chapter. I really appreciate it!

 

Also, for some reason I really like the black on the top right side of the marine more than the black being on the left side. It also symbolizes the Yellow with the parent chapter better and shows a sign of respect to the Imperial Fists since all marines will have the chapter badge on the yellow. Just the veterans will have the chapter badge on the black. Another sign that they are a beacon against the darkness trying to destroy mankind.

 

Also about the white helmets being on the Veterans. Only the yellow half will be white on all veterans. The only person that will have a full white helmet will be the Apothecaries. Librarians will have a Yellow/Blue color scheme and Tech Marines will be Yellow/Red with Veterans Yellow/White.

 

So they will look like this but the chapter badge will be a White fist on a black background with a White circle around the black background.

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/sm/bpe=FBFF00&bpj=FBFF00&bp=FBFF00&bpc=FBFF00&hdt=FBFF00&hdm=FBFF00&hdl=FBFF00&ey=00FF04&er=FBFF00&pi=7A7878&nk=FBFF00&ch=FBFF00&eg=7A7878&sk=7A7878&abs=FBFF00&bt=FBFF00&cod=FBFF00&ull=FBFF00&lk=FBFF00&lll=FBFF00&lft=FBFF00&url=000000&rk=000000&lrl=000000&rft=000000&slt=FBFF00&sli=000000&srt=000000&sri=FBFF00&ula=000000&lel=000000&lla=000000&lw=000000&lh=FFFFFF&ura=FBFF00&rel=FBFF00&rla=FBFF00&rw=FBFF00&rh=FFFFFF&bg=FFFFFF&rb=7A7878&gr=7A7878&qu=000000&wg=true&imperialfistpad=true&ti=FFFFFF&/spacemarine.jpg

 

Here is a link to the WiP thread where I'm building the background and throwing ideas together just in case you wanted to take a look in.

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357867-the-argent-fists/?p=5372159

[Aothaine]

Alright. So I decided to do the dry brushing technique to cover most of the armor. That being said I am thinking of running a halved color scheme instead of quartered. How does this look? Do you guys think the quartered looks better or the halved?

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/sm/bpe=000000&bpj=000000&bp=000000&bpc=000000&hdt=FFFFFF&hdm=FFFFFF&hdl=FFFFFF&ey=00FF1A&er=FFFFFF&pi=737373&nk=000000&ch=000000&eg=737373&sk=737373&abs=000000&bt=000000&cod=000000&ull=FFFB00&lk=FFFB00&lll=FFFB00&lft=FFFB00&url=000000&rk=000000&lrl=000000&rft=000000&slt=000000&sli=FFFB00&srt=FFFB00&sri=000000&ula=FFFB00&lel=FFFB00&lla=FFFB00&lw=FFFB00&lh=FFFFFF&ura=000000&rel=000000&rla=000000&rw=000000&rh=FFFFFF&bg=1F1F1F&rb=737373&gr=737373&ha=FFFB00&wg=true&cloak=750000&comi=000000&imperialfistpad=true&bpr=FFFFFF&pfr=FFFFFF&/spacemarine.jpg

 

Really appreciate your opinions btw! I can do the quartered look with dry brushing. I'll just end up needing to paint the miniatures a little slower which isn't an issue really. But also just curious what everyone thinks about the halved color scheme.

[Bjorn Firewalker]

I personally prefer the quartered look, as halved means the Marine's colors are totally different if you look at him from the opposite side, which may lead to him getting misidentified and becoming a victim of "friendly fire." I understand, though, if you use halved colors to save time- unlike a Chapter's Master of the Forge, you don't have an army of servitors and airbrush-equipped servo-skulls to paint hundreds of suits of armor (including that of armor, i.e., battle tanks) in the correct colors.

[Boldthreat]

I too believe you should stick with the quartered scheme.  But, split looks good as well.  Its your call.  I hope you don't mind, but I decided to play with the scheme a little bit and show you how I would do it.  Now this is nothing but my opinion on what looks good whilst taking most of what you have and working with it.  The one thing that jars me a bit is your alternating shoulder trim colors, so I opted to change that.  I think it ended up popping really well.  Feel free to shoot it down or whatever:

 

[Rizara]

i agree, the alternating shoulder trim throws of the look that is jarring.  By using your shoulder trim color, as Boldthreat shows in his examples, to represent say your company colors, or even just use it as a way to seperate battle brothers, veterans, and reserves even.   Even though a quartered scheme isn't exactly a perfect mirror image, you still must maintain some sort of symmetry to even an asymmetrical color scheme to create some sort of balance otherwise it isn't pleasing to the eyes.   I think the red will make for a good color suggestion.   

 

As for the issue of half versus quarter, the quarter scheme will be more challenging to paint for sure, and in the past it was easier to paint your marines legs and chests seperate, but with primaris, many of them have part of the torso (back side), attached to the legs.   The quartered scheme has much more character and in the long run it will make for a much more appealing army.   Also as i look at the models above, perhaps doing a quartered scheme with a solid helmet color might make things a little less frustrating.  You could do a red helm for everyone, with say the white/red mix for sergeants, white for veterans, and you could maybe do a black with red stripe for LTs, and black for Captains.   This would work well with others, not sure if your librarians, chaplains, techmarines, and apothecaries are going with traditional coloring or your armies colors.   If they go with your armies colors, you could make there helmets a solid color to match their traditional colors that way, as well as maybe one shoulder pad, and any robes they are wearing.  

 

Just trying to throw out ideas, as developing your army is yours and yours alone.  It takes time, but allowing others to add some ideas helps to refine yours even more, especially background and reasonings to markings and such. 

[Son of Sacrifice]

Some cool ideas in here, I like the amount of thought going into this. That scheme though... Crikey. You might want to do a test mini first lol.

[Aothaine]

I personally prefer the quartered look, as halved means the Marine's colors are totally different if you look at him from the opposite side, which may lead to him getting misidentified and becoming a victim of "friendly fire." I understand, though, if you use halved colors to save time- unlike a Chapter's Master of the Forge, you don't have an army of servitors and airbrush-equipped servo-skulls to paint hundreds of suits of armor (including that of armor, i.e., battle tanks) in the correct colors.

 

I really like the quartered look as well. I don't want identification errors happening on the battle field. That could be really bad. I know this is not a project I'll have done in a month. I'm not in a rush. I want to make this army look good. Once I get a good process down I'll be able to pop these boys out and have a decently sized force in around a year maybe.

 

I too believe you should stick with the quartered scheme.  But, split looks good as well.  Its your call.  I hope you don't mind, but I decided to play with the scheme a little bit and show you how I would do it.  Now this is nothing but my opinion on what looks good whilst taking most of what you have and working with it.  The one thing that jars me a bit is your alternating shoulder trim colors, so I opted to change that.  I think it ended up popping really well.  Feel free to shoot it down or whatever:

 

I don't mind at all. I was asking questions because I'm pretty bad when it comes to deciding on what looks good lol! I hear you on the shoulder trim and agree with you. If you don't mind I would love to move that photo over to the WiP thread I have going for my boys. You must have put a lot of work into that image and I am very thankful for your time on this.

 

i agree, the alternating shoulder trim throws of the look that is jarring.  By using your shoulder trim color, as Boldthreat shows in his examples, to represent say your company colors, or even just use it as a way to seperate battle brothers, veterans, and reserves even.   Even though a quartered scheme isn't exactly a perfect mirror image, you still must maintain some sort of symmetry to even an asymmetrical color scheme to create some sort of balance otherwise it isn't pleasing to the eyes.   I think the red will make for a good color suggestion.   

 

As for the issue of half versus quarter, the quarter scheme will be more challenging to paint for sure, and in the past it was easier to paint your marines legs and chests seperate, but with primaris, many of them have part of the torso (back side), attached to the legs.   The quartered scheme has much more character and in the long run it will make for a much more appealing army.   Also as i look at the models above, perhaps doing a quartered scheme with a solid helmet color might make things a little less frustrating.  You could do a red helm for everyone, with say the white/red mix for sergeants, white for veterans, and you could maybe do a black with red stripe for LTs, and black for Captains.   This would work well with others, not sure if your librarians, chaplains, techmarines, and apothecaries are going with traditional coloring or your armies colors.   If they go with your armies colors, you could make there helmets a solid color to match their traditional colors that way, as well as maybe one shoulder pad, and any robes they are wearing.  

 

Just trying to throw out ideas, as developing your army is yours and yours alone.  It takes time, but allowing others to add some ideas helps to refine yours even more, especially background and reasonings to markings and such. 

 

I agree. The examples that Boldthreat provided look much better. I will be going with the red chest eagle and shoulder trim for sure. I think I'm going to make the normal marines have the split yellow/black helm. Veterans will be all white, Captains will be all white with a laurel on the helm, Lieutenants  will be all white with the red stripe on the top and Sergeants will have the yellow/black split with a white stripe maybe? Apothecaries / Librarians / Chaplains / Techmarines will all be in codex colors. I know that Dorn did not want to split up the legion but he did agree to it for a good cause. I would imagine he would be quite upset if his sons did not follow suit.

 

Some cool ideas in here, I like the amount of thought going into this. That scheme though... Crikey. You might want to do a test mini first lol.

 

Thank you! I'm slowing building my own little sector of the galaxy. It will revolve around my Astra Militarum, Adeptus Soritas, Adeptus Astartes, Admech, and my Chaos factions as well (Khorne based Renegade White Scars, Khorne Daemons and Daemon Chaos Knights. 

 

Having a ton of fun linking it all together. I'll be having a rather large war break out eventually in the story line as well but that is years away still.

 

Edit: I ran out of likes for the day. I apologize I'll hit you all up tomorrow. :D