TorvaldTheMild Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 How do people kit out their Berzerkers, I always kit them out with chainaxes and chainswords, but I'm just wondering if anyone likes to kit them out standard with bolt pistols and why? I like being able to shoot while still in CC but I don't think the pro's outweigh the cons, like shooting and reducing your potential charge range and the flexibility of axe and sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgascoine011 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I think everyone takes the axes and chainswords Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/#findComment-5373846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I have always had a weak spot for two with plasma pistols, but unless they're up against something hard and dangerous they won't bring much to the fight. Though, two overcharged plasma pistols is a nice little surprise against some enemies. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/#findComment-5374002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I have my berzerkers moddelled with bolt pistol, plasma, and chain axes, and always use them in game as such (wysiwyg). I found that every other battle they make use of their ranged attacks. Sometimes when stuck in combat it allows them to shoot in cc, and wipe the unit out, thus letting them charge something new. I have done this with blood angel players, wiping the death company i was in combat with to change a sanguine gaurd behind them. The occasional bolt/plasma rounds to remove a screen or pop the last wound of a rhino to charge the now exposed passengers has saved me games. I tried the chainsword combo but found that berzerkers overkill their target usually anyway, so the attacks are not always as important as a some additional shooting attacks. My 2 cents. Good luck Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/#findComment-5374055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I have future proofed it in that I take bolt pistols with the combat weapon. Besides, if I'm stuck in with something I do like to be able to shoot them during my shooting phase (I love the imagery of it, sorta John Wick jujitsu shooting but in power armor) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/#findComment-5374140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I have future proofed it in that I take bolt pistols with the combat weapon. Besides, if I'm stuck in with something I do like to be able to shoot them during my shooting phase (I love the imagery of it, sorta John Wick jujitsu shooting but in power armor) You could still model chainsword, chain axe and bolt pistol by using holsters. Holstered pistol and holding one are the same thing for WYSIWYG purposes. I should start bezerkers because knowing my luck the new models will be released as I am doing like 30 bezerkers lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/#findComment-5374153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I don't use pistols at all on my Zerkers because Bolt Pistols are strictly WORSE than the Berzerkers own melee attacks in terms of damage potential, and Plasma Pistols are expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/#findComment-5374156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Axes and swords every time. Never had a game where I wish I’d armed them with pistols. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/#findComment-5374199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhanados Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Mine are pretty much all armed with bolt pistols - a holdover from previous editions. Ruleswise sword and axe is the superior choice, but I can't help but feel that this option is an oversight that will be corrected some time down the road so I haven't bothered re-arming my models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/#findComment-5374581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Yeah exactly. GW typically has nerfed or removed stuff that was pretty awesome (after they moved some models, see Primarch Guilliman most recently) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/#findComment-5374873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Even if it changes, modeling it like I suggested, the models would still be valid regardless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/#findComment-5375147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Blank Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I've used both and prefer sword/axe. Yes, you get shots occasionally, but it is low strength and volume and you're giving your opponent a chance to remove models in charge range before you can assault Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/#findComment-5375317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhanados Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Oh I agree entirely. I don't think I've ever actually fired a bolt pistol with my Berzerkers in 8th - the risk of killing more models than I account for in my charge distance and winding up having to roll an extra inch or two isn't worth it. Besides, once they're in combat their bare hands would do more damage than the pistol ever could. The only reason I haven't changed is because I believe that at some point in the near future we'll lose the ability to exchange the bolt pistol for a close combat weapon of any kind. I personally find an entire unit of Berzerkers wielding an identical axe and sword combo visually off putting. Mine are typically around a 50/50 split of axe+pistol or sword+pistol with a few plasma pistols tossed in. I do have a couple with dual axes or dual pistols from back in the day when it didn't matter, but I don't use them often because it confuses people. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357937-chainaxes-and-chainswords-v-chainswords-and-bolt-pistols/#findComment-5380535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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