Daigo Cannon Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I don't see him listed in the codex, so this mean that the model I just finished painting two month ago is no longer usable?? Does he get the same rules just the adjusted stat lines from his Gravis counter part(+1W,+1A)?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357970-marneus-calgar-in-terminator-armor-no-longer-usable/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joukernaut Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 He still has index rules (without the angels of death rule unfortunately) or you could use him as counts as primaris Calgar and use his primaris datasheet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357970-marneus-calgar-in-terminator-armor-no-longer-usable/#findComment-5375025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Unfortunately losing the Angels of Death rule is pretty terminal for Terminator Calgar, which is a shame because the model is spectacular and superior to the generic Gravis Armour version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357970-marneus-calgar-in-terminator-armor-no-longer-usable/#findComment-5375049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Yeah its a shame. I think any character that crosses the Rubicon, their old rules and model will likely be put out to pasture. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357970-marneus-calgar-in-terminator-armor-no-longer-usable/#findComment-5375163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Same as tiguirius unfortunately. And I was looking forward to using him as well as I got his model back over in 5th edition. Oh well, guess I’ll just have to repose primaries calagars arms back old calagars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357970-marneus-calgar-in-terminator-armor-no-longer-usable/#findComment-5375242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 After the FAQ it looks like Index units get Angels of Death except for Calgar in Terminator armour yet does in Artificer Armour. Sadly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357970-marneus-calgar-in-terminator-armor-no-longer-usable/#findComment-5380370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrkPlayer137 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I already posted something similar in the news thread, but this seems to be the more appropriate place for it, as there was already discussion about this here. Unfortunately the Index datasheet is not usable anyway - the rule is that Index datasheets can be used only when there is not a newer datasheet with the same name...and both the Index and Codex datasheets are called "Marneus Calgar", even though they are for different models. This has created the silly situation where the really old model in Artificer armour is still usable because its datasheet has a different name, but the terminator model isn't usable. That's presumably why they didn't bother adding Angels of Death to the Terminator Calgar in the Index. There is an easy fix for this though: they could just have a line in the FAQ to rename the Index datasheet to "Marneus Calgar in Terminator Armour" or "Marneus Calgar in Armour of Antilochus". Perhaps GW might do that if enough people ask them to. And of course Tigurius is in a similar situation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357970-marneus-calgar-in-terminator-armor-no-longer-usable/#findComment-5381217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I’d let my opponents use him with Angels of Death. Honestly though the new PriMarneus version is a better stat line so keep that in mind. :) As far as our Chief Librarian goes the new Primaris version is far superior and see how the psychic phase is such a big deal he’s really worth considering and more survivable too. All that said I understand how people feel who want to use their existing miniatures. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357970-marneus-calgar-in-terminator-armor-no-longer-usable/#findComment-5381266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I finally ended up biting the bullet and buying new marneus and I gotta say that he’s beautiful. Old marneus was one of the first models I ever built but just in terms of grandeur I’ll have to give it to new marneus. Can’t wait to go and grab tiggy next. I do think that it kind of sucks how the whole index options go. I assume for casual games people will be a bit more relaxed with it. Personally I’m fine with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357970-marneus-calgar-in-terminator-armor-no-longer-usable/#findComment-5381376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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