Brother Exodus Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 If there's one thing that always bugged me about the rhino it's the fact that they went ahead and built in the ability for the rear ramp to open, but just left the other 3 to sit there in all their glued in place glory. I've seen several attempts at the conversion, but none that have seemed practical. I'm not a fan of using green stuff, nor am I a plasticard person. The most appealing aspect of this method is that you most likely have to tools required already. If you have pinned; you can create a working rhino. Required Tools: Pin vice (this will get A LOT of use) Wire (two gages and matching drill bits) Knife File 1 Rhino (obviously) Pliers (not shown) Not So Required Tools: Green Stuff (for correct ?accidents?) Glue (that?s right, you don?t actually NEED glue for this) http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v13/BrotherExodus/Tools.jpg Door Preparation There are very delicate pieces of plastic in the hinge area. One can't just go hacking away at the middle section of the hinge, when you use a knife you're simply driving more material into the area to split it apart, do this and you could weaken the plastic around the area to be removed. So drill a hole through the middle of the hinge so the plastic as a place to go when you cut it out with your knife. Once all material is removed drill through the hinge, and be careful when lining up your pin vice, the hinge doesn't have to be perfectly aligned, but it helps. http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v13/BrotherExodus/Step1.jpg Hinge Preparation This is where all the fun with wire comes in, begin by wrapping the smaller gauge of wire around the larger about 3 times into somewhat of a spring apparatus leaving the two long ends to one side. After you have done that for both hinges simply thread the wire through the door hinges and coiled wire. It's extremely unlikely that the area you removed from the door hinge above is large enough to thread everything together on the first try, if you're having a hard time threading it all together just file away until it all fits. Once it's all together use the pliers to twist the loose ends together. http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v13/BrotherExodus/Step2.jpg Door Installation Drill holes in the corresponding area under the where the hinges rest on the rhino and slide the twisted wire into place then it's just a matter of flipping the rhino section over and bending the wire to keep the door tightly in place. http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v13/BrotherExodus/Step3.jpg Because there is no glue involved and there is flexibility in the wire adjusting the doors motion to perfection isn't terribly hard. You'll probably need to remove a little material from where the bottom of the door and the frame meet to allow for the door to move all the way down to touch the ground. This is where the glue comes in, if you feel the hinges need a little more stability just add a drop of glue between the plastic and the bent wire on the interior of the rhino wall. http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v13/BrotherExodus/Step4.jpg EDIT - the finished product with the top doors done the same way! http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v13/BrotherExodus/finished.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
millest Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 very simple which i like, i think even i could manage this! im guessing it work on top doors too? cheers for posting millest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-378554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Thu'Ook Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 Oooooooh! :D It is that simple! Thanks for that tutorial! Chaplain Thu'Ook Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-378560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeothar Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 Oh, the beautiful simplicity of it all! And considering the lengths I went through to hinge mine... *sigh* Ah well, *grunting voice* 'Next time, Gadget...' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-378600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Izrail Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 looks good. i like it. i just have a concern that the wire might fail after repeatedly opening and closing the doors. thanks for the tutorial. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-378620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Exodus Posted March 11, 2004 Author Share Posted March 11, 2004 the wire doesn't fail, because you're not applying any preassue to the wire itself, all of the motion is in the hinge, all that would happen is the smaller gage of wire gringding against the larger, but the friction is near to none, and even if it did fail by some impossible circumstance you can simply replace the wires if you don't glue or glue very little Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-378623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Izrail Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 ahhh, going back and reading a second time cleared it up for me. you're right, there is no pressure on the wire itself. now i definetly want to try it on my next rhino. thanks again for the tutorial Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-378636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt102 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 wow...great tutorial! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-378660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper-acromegaly Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 OMG. It's so simple. I thought for sure it would involve more cutting. Now I wish I had mac-taced my doors on like I first intended too. I will definatly use this on my future rhino's and landraiders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-378825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezul Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 great tutorial! so easy and so well explained. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-378892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Thank you, I love explainations of new ways to do things! It is clear and easy, nice one! You have to be sure not to wrap the wire too tight though! but I like how you can nudge it into the right place, that's saves tons of hassle! Good thinking! And thanks again for the tip! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-378912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Desmodus Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Great tutorial and a GREAT method. ;) I have hinged the doors on both of my rhinos, using two different methods (the leadership10.com one and another one described earlier here at the B&C), both were pretty awkward and difficult to pull off. This method seems much easier and more neat. I'll try it out on my next rhino/RB. :) This thread is going to the B&C Archive and the PC&A FAQ after people have had a chance to see it. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-378964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knorretje Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Great tut dude, will try it for my new Rhino, keep up the good work ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-379014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Exodus Posted March 12, 2004 Author Share Posted March 12, 2004 This thread is going to the B&C Archive and the PC&A FAQ after people have had a chance to see it. ;) WOO! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-379020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetor Lex Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Great job, Bro Exodus! My Razors will get this treatment.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-379156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcL63 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 A tutorial on hinging rhino doors. Just what I need. I'm going to track this thread for future reference. Thanks Brother Exodus. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-379164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venerable Jazzman Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 Bums! Now I have to paint the inside of the Rhinos too :rolleyes: Great simple method, I can use it on my LandRaider too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-379186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redphantasm Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 And i happen to have a rhino kit lying around. Thanks for the inspiration. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-379233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrionsapprentice Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 thats awsom !! is it the same for the top doors 2? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-379698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Exodus Posted March 13, 2004 Author Share Posted March 13, 2004 top two doors are the same, probably even more simple Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-379711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoonkin Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Sigh...between the lights a few posts down and this I need another new Rhino. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-379721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Exodus Posted March 13, 2004 Author Share Posted March 13, 2004 i'm with ya on that, i can't wait until i get to working on my razor back, doors + lights = /drool Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-379729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoonkin Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 Predator + Lascannon turret + blue LED + clear acrylic tubes + cheap speaker = a Predator that flashes lights and makes noise when it shoots the Lascannons. ;) I have two Predators laying around...I'm tempted to do that now. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-379776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nornicle Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Great tutorial, so uhm what size wire do I need? (im not so good with gauges or whatever) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-467866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Desmodus Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Hinge PreparationThis is where all the fun with wire comes in, begin by wrapping the smaller gage of wire around the larger about 3 times into somewhat of a spring apparatus leaving the two long ends to one side. After you have done that for both hinges simply thread the wire through the door hinges and coiled wire. It's extremely unlikely that the area you removed from the door hinge above is large enough to thread everything together on the first try, if you're having a hard time threading it all together just file away until it all fits. Once it's all together use the pliers to twist the loose ends together. http://img3.photobucket.com/albums/v13/BrotherExodus/Step2.jpg Hmmm... did you glue the horisontal wire-pieces to the door hinges? If not, is there a risk that they fall out? ...forgot to put this in the archive, will do, soon, I promise. B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/35817-modelling-rhino-door-tutorial/#findComment-467878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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