Lord Kallozar Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Hi all, the legion of the damned do not appear to be in the new codex, so what’s happened to them? Can I no longer field them at all anymore? Do they no longer exist? Please help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Hi all, the legion of the damned do not appear to be in the new codex, so what’s happened to them? Can I no longer field them at all anymore? Do they no longer exist? Please help.They're still an index unit (to be a future Legends unit) but they probably need an updated kit pretty badly. With the changes to how the codex works they could be moving to something we'll have to ally in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostglaive Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 They are an Index-only option now. You can still field them so long as you have access to the Space Marine Index. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 There are no LotD Primaris so there wont be a new kit for them, unfortunately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kallozar Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 What space marine index? Sorry for my lack of understanding. I only thought it was the codex that could be used? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 What space marine index? Sorry for my lack of understanding. I only thought it was the codex that could be used? GW released an index of all units in the game. If they dont have a newer datasheet in a codex, you use the index rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 What space marine index? Sorry for my lack of understanding. I only thought it was the codex that could be used?They are talking about this Index: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/229428/warhammer-40000-index-imperium-1 And you can still use it per the Designer Commentary and GW's numerous comments about using it for models/daasheets/Wargear options that don't have rules in the Codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 There are no LotD Primaris so there wont be a new kit for them, unfortunately.I disagree. Those angry Warp Ghosts need an update out of Finecast before GW pushes them though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I could see them coming as a Space Marine heroes series, but if they make a new marine kit, I doubt it will be old marines but on fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 There are no LotD Primaris so there wont be a new kit for them, unfortunately. For now... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I have 15 of the finecast Legion of the damned and they're great sculpts with nothing to complain about. Well, they're a ridiculous pain to clean but so were metals to be honest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I have 15 of the finecast Legion of the damned and they're great sculpts with nothing to complain about. Well, they're a ridiculous pain to clean but so were metals to be honest.It has more to do with the changes to the marine book (and likely them wanting to break Lots back out of the Marines so they can be more of their own thing and pop up in other armies to fit their lore more) and the company moving away from Finecast and metal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Many years ago, during the Andy Chambers golden age, him and I believe Pete Haines showcased a new army list for Legion of the Damned. The army list was published in White Dwarf. I firmly believe, after the Marines release has finished its echo, we'll see new Codex books for new factions. This is following the AoS model which so far GW is doing. (The only exception here is GW actually did release new rules for Legacy armies) Legion of the Damned will be one of those Codex books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 There are no LotD Primaris so there wont be a new kit for them, unfortunately. For now... Is possible a battle cruiser full of Primaris could get pulled back in time when translating to warp space vector and re emerge into the LotD time line. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Legion of the Damned weren't in the previous marine book, their absence from the 2.0 one will have nothing to do with a new codex. We'll probably see the datasheet in a Psychic awakening book which may or may not involve new models for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domhnall Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 There are no LotD Primaris so there wont be a new kit for them, unfortunately. <Communication Archive Log 2353.B41Z> Somewhere deep in flamey space... A LotD trooper approaches his Captain on the command bridge, and with a spark of indignation in his voice he expresses his concern 'The Marines in real space now have larger, more powerful marines! We will look like children dressing up for Halloween, we'll be laughed off the field of battle!' The Captain turns to the trooper, and places a hand on the troopers shoulder. 'Fear not trooper, for reasons contrived and heretofore unspoken, we have a company of Primaris marines, who have been waiting a long time to join glorious battle!' The Captain steps back with hands on hips, with pride blazing in his eyes proclaims 'We are the Legion of the Damned! And we shall not be left behind to smoulder like some cast aside xenos after a flamer assault!' Trooper raises a skeptical eyebrow... 'Contrived reason?' he asks with burning curiosity. The Captain pauses, then looks at the trooper. 'Why yes, we'll have a very good reason to have Primaris marines...' he trails off, contemplating. An idea forms, takes shape and ignites in the Captain's mind 'We were... to be the first Chapter to have Pirmaris...' The Captain pauses to consider further '...we were to be an experiment... to see how they could be incorporated into an existing Chapter back when we were the Fire Hawks, if that's who we really were of course' The Captain winks at the trooper knowingly. 'Chaos obviously wouldn't like that, so...we get...' waves hand vaguely 'and here we are. Lots of troops to stay current to sell minia... I mean battlefield ready in these grim dark times.' The trooper stares blankly. 'And this will be accepted?' 'Of course!' replies the Captain warmly. 'As long as we have a hero who gives a nostalgic nod to a hero of the olden days, we can feed people any old sh...' <Archive Log Terminated> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5382920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 There are no LotD Primaris so there wont be a new kit for them, unfortunately. 'Of course!' replies the Captain warmly. 'As long as we have a hero who gives a nostalgic nod to a hero of the olden days, we can feed people any old sh...' <Archive Log Terminated> God I would hate a Primaris Centurious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5384440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucerne Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 LotD that look like the soul of cinder from dark souls with modern design techniques would be swell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5384464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Having actual fire on the armour instead of the old 'get the trainee sculptors to sculpt bones and flames on them' would look good. Although no doubt GW will go OTT with it and each marine will be the size of a dreadnought once all the bling/flames have been added. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5384471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/05/5/1549017281-img-20190201-104404.jpg I'd dig it if they updated the Legion of the Damned to differ them from the main Marine line. Make them completely demonic/ghost like being phantoms of dead marines wreathed in flames wearing power armor like Ghan's converted reivers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5384538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickSix Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I don't see them coming back, sadly. The logical jumps that would have to me made to justify 'Primaris Legionaires' would just be insane. I would rather them fade into history than have their lore butchered. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5387662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucerne Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 LotD as ghosts would logically have some primaris ghosts- or they could use oldmarine models as the basis the way they did with CSM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5387672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickSix Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Oh GW has the capabilities to make badass plastic sculpt. And I would LOVE nothing more than a badass, slightly upscaled, LotD kit in old armor marks (everything from MKIII to Mk7). I just know it isn't going to happen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5388189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Legion of the Damned weren't in the previous marine book, their absence from the 2.0 one will have nothing to do with a new codex. We'll probably see the datasheet in a Psychic awakening book which may or may not involve new models for them. I saw a leak anywere that shows up a few units that will stay in an index and wont be changed anymore so far. Very sad if that will be true... LotD is one thing GeDub doesnt realise what makes 40k so good. They are just on the way to transfer 40k in a newer 30k because the Horus Heresy used to be so succesfull. Problem is that I think they dont realise what makes the Horus Heresy so good - its not the focus on the legions itself... its more the connection between 30k and 40k (AND Primarchs) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5390954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Sacrifice Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I can't imagine there is much demand for Legion of the Damned to get a new kit unfortunately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358209-no-lotd-anymore/#findComment-5391327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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