Suppressors - opinions?

[SkimaskMohawk]

Some great points on eliminators and suppressors. And hey, at least the suppressors can get into cover a lot easier, have a bit more durability as iron hands and can be stratagem'd to only being wounded on 4s if really needed.

[Amon777]

IH suppressors I think are ace in any kind of threat overload list where there's plenty of targets. Good shooting, relativity cheap, and with IH survivable and no penalty to move and shoot. I'm planning on 2 squads to either DS or jump from LOS in the backfield.

[MegaVolt87]

I wish they could have a cap of 6 like Inceptors, I don't mind the models too much as I usually fix up elements I don't like anyway. On the bright side I feel they are pointed correctly for what they can do. 

[Jerethdatiger]

Remember there job isn't so much to kill units but to stop overwatch before a charge.

It's ashame they don't have a larger squad to take casualtys as they tend to get popped after one shot.

 

I like them a lot

[Mandragola]

I actually think suppressors can do a decent job of killing stuff. Ap3 autocannon are quite nasty guns and their price is pretty reasonable.

 

They aren’t an alpha strike unit like plasma inceptors but they actually average almost as many shots per point. At 48” range and with no danger of blowing themselves up. The downside is S7 - and that’s definitely a big deal. But they can still lay down a steady amount of fire, with far less risk to them as they do it.

[Panzer]

Remember their job isn't so much to kill units but to stop overwatch before a charge.

It's a shame they don't have a larger squad to take casualties as they tend to get popped after one shot.

 

I like them a lot

 

I disagree. Their job is primarily to kill stuff with their huge S7 AP-2 D2 guns. Stopping overwatch is a neat sideeffect.

Edited September 10, 2019 by sfPanzer

[Guest Triszin]

I'm planning on trying out 3 squads of em next to a deredeo with the automatic passive

[Son of Sacrifice]

The fact that they aren't technically available anymore seems a valid point to make. This space marine release is so strange.

[Mandragola]

The fact that they aren't technically available anymore seems a valid point to make. This space marine release is so strange.

 

Very true. I snapped up two extra squads so I can theoretically field 9 (or could if I built them, anyway). 

 

I'm surprised they don't seem to be getting a full kit like eliminators have. I'd sort of assumed they would, perhaps with a different weapon option. Or at least that there'd be an easy to build release of the current kit. It's very weird.

 

The same goes for the grav chute lieutenant of course.

[BluejayJunior]

They're obviously going to get a kit at some point. It's a little weird that we haven't heard anything yet, but they are really slowly trickling out this space marine release. I would expect maybe towards the end of the supplements or with updated BA/DA/SW codexes. They've announced the Infiltrator/Incursor, Impulsor, Eliminator kits, but those haven't been released yet (well the Eliminators are coming up now). 

[MegaVolt87]

It is strange they do not have a kit yet as they appear to only have the autocannon option. While we also do not have oblits out yet either and they definitely are as is. If supressors had another gun option, surely it would have been in the codex already? 

[Daigo Cannon]

I'm sure they will be released with Sallys and IF suplements, they want to pair the release of the books with a plastic kits

UM/WS paired with Invictor and Cp in Phobos
IH/RG paired with Eliminators and Lt in Phobos
 

[SkimaskMohawk]

But there's still the impulsor and incursors, you know, the new models with new rules?

 

I strongly doubt they'd sneak in a new, generic kit into the middle of the release window.

[Son of Sacrifice]

It's also an unannounced kit. Everything else that we are waiting on has been previewed already.

[domsto]

I wouldn't be so sure about them getting a kit.

Looking at things like the Gravis Captain or the Primaris Standart Guy, which are still only available in the 2 Player Starter Box form the Start of this Edition.

Some Units just don't get a single Relais it seems.

Same goes for the Chaos side of things

Many of the new and good Units are locked behind boxsets, some of them aren't available anymore.

[Son of Sacrifice]

I'm confident that they will get a multi-part kit somewhere down the line, just not as a part of this space marine release. Are you saying you don't think Obliterators and greater possessed will get a seperate release sometime soon?

[domsto]

I'm confident that they will get a multi-part kit somewhere down the line, just not as a part of this space marine release. Are you saying you don't think Obliterators and greater possessed will get a seperate release sometime soon?

Yes i am

I mean look at the Death Guard side from the 2 Player Starter Set

The Charakters are still only available in this Box.

[Panzer]

Characters that were part of a box set is one thing, but entire units is a whole different thing. It's not a question of if they get released separately, it's a question of when they get released separately.

[Mandragola]

Maybe. There are several units in shadowspear that haven’t had any hint of a separate release. What’s so fundamentally different between doing that for a character and any other unit? Edited September 11, 2019 by Mandragola

[Panzer]

For characters it's usually just a unique model or some unique loadout. The unit itself is already available separately. For a whole unit it's ... well, the whole unit.

[Halandaar]

Remember there job isn't so much to kill units but to stop overwatch before a charge.

 

Disagree; their job is to kill things first and foremost, and they have the guns to back that up; suppressing Overwatch is a nice trick, but highly situational.

[domsto]

For characters it's usually just a unique model or some unique loadout. The unit itself is already available separately. For a whole unit it's ... well, the whole unit.

The Marine Charakters from Shadowspear got there own Relaise.

[Panzer]

I didn't say characters don't get their own releases, also these characters were basically new units too.

[Mandragola]

I guess we’ll see. The characters who got their own release we’re already on their own sprues in the box. It’s the stuff that was grouped together that hasn’t, so far, been released independently.

 

Ultimately we can guess all we wait but we won’t know till we eventually see some releases. I hope we get them but nothing’s been seen. There are lots of unreleased models in the Codex but suppressors aren’t among them.

[Halandaar]

The Codex already has multiple images of unreleased models in it (Incursors, Impulsor etc) and there would be no reason not to include different Suppressors in that if they had a kit coming as part of this wave. 

 

Furthermore, GW have specifically previewed the new multipart variants of units that were in Shadowspear (Infiltrators, Eliminators) on the Community website, and notably NOT done so for Suppressors.

 

I think you have to take those 2 things to mean there isn't a kit for them on the way in the immediate future.