Demoulius Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Hey all, I think I probably know the anwser already.... but does anyone use the artisan of war warlord trait? On paper adding 1 damage to a weapon doesent seem that powerfull but when you factor in weapons with very high rates of fire (like stormbolters) or weapons with high AP (thunderhammers, chainfists, etc) I can see this WL trait having some pretty powerfull combos. Thing is compared to the other traits I feel its just....lackluster. Maybe if it also added -1AP it would see the point. But I can see it beeing more usefull in small games. Like maybe 500-1000 pts or something I guess. OOORRRR It could be worth it to take on a smash captain but I take gift of foresight myself to make him last a little bit longer. Personally it doesent really help in keeping him alive but I can count the games that ive played with him on 1 hand so theres that Some fun combos I can see (in small games) that could be pretty powerfull: ranged Lietenant/captain with master crafted boltgun that does 3 damage per wound. Only -1ap and 2 shots when rapid firing but a very budget hq. Plamapistol (or plasmacomponent in a combi-plasma) would do 2 without risking you a instant death on a 1 to hit. With a risky 3 damage per shot. Stormbolter would do 2 damage but has no AP. But 4 shots when rapid firing. close combat Furioso with boosted Furioso force halberd does 4 damage per wound. And considering a Liby dread comes with 1 anyway..... Master crafted power swords would do 3 damage per wound. (can be found on captain on gravis armour and company champion) Thunder hammers would do 4 damage per hit. OOF. Crozius would do 3 damage per wound. Relic blades would do 2-4 damage per wound. I only listed the weapons that I personally think it would be worth it to take the WL trait on and some of these are....Hilariously killy. Anyway, looking forward to what you guys have for input on this BAjim 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358303-artisan-of-war-warlord-trait/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Yes, Artisan of War is probably the most used Warlord Trait in the Blood Angels Codex thanks to the Captain Smash build. ;) ThatOneMarshal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358303-artisan-of-war-warlord-trait/#findComment-5384709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 One od the 2* go-to WLs for the Smash Captain. Consider the number od attacks that he gets ;) *The other being Gift od Foresight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358303-artisan-of-war-warlord-trait/#findComment-5384724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Huh, interesting. Never considered it on ranged weapons. I also use it all the time, even a Sanguinary Ancient gets quite killy with D3+1 damage per hit as your warlord. Generally, you should focus more on close combat, given the Red Thirst. If you want to focus on the shooty stuff more, Space Marines with their doctrines are currently the way to go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358303-artisan-of-war-warlord-trait/#findComment-5384731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermintide Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 The value of this trait is that having extra damage on a weapon means guaranteed additional damage on every successful attack. That tends to work out better than just having extra attacks would, for example. Even apart from the notorious Captain Smash, I think we get a lot of mileage out of it. Smaller points games where you only have a cheap HQ with a power sword? That's still gonna pack a punch at 2 damage. My personal favourite is to give it to my chaplain and make his Crozius into a budget Thunder Hammer t-dog1996 and Demoulius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358303-artisan-of-war-warlord-trait/#findComment-5384961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-dog1996 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) The value of this trait is that having extra damage on a weapon means guaranteed additional damage on every successful attack. That tends to work out better than just having extra attacks would, for example. Even apart from the notorious Captain Smash, I think we get a lot of mileage out of it. Smaller points games where you only have a cheap HQ with a power sword? That's still gonna pack a punch at 2 damage. My personal favourite is to give it to my chaplain and make his Crozius into a budget Thunder Hammer What's kinda funny is that at only 124 points Slam is totally viable in smaller point games. I even once took him in a 500 point scratch game for funsies. In that one he pretty much soloed my opponent's whole army. The rest of the list was just 3 Scout Squads who grabbed objectives, and a Lieutenant with a small Sternguard squad for fire support. Artisan of war is good because it pairs well with our army trait. Ultimately if your 'thing' is that you wound more easily in CC. it stands to reason that anything which makes each wound do more damage is worth it. Edited September 9, 2019 by t-dog1996 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358303-artisan-of-war-warlord-trait/#findComment-5385151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Where've you been Dem!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358303-artisan-of-war-warlord-trait/#findComment-5385158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 Recovering from a burn out mate. Things are slowly getting better that I can slowly start to do fun things again. Painting and modelling has proven to be a great help Honestly I only expected people with smash captains to use this warlord trait. But theory crafting a little bit about its uses is pretty fun Morticon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358303-artisan-of-war-warlord-trait/#findComment-5386102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAjim Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Artisan of War is one the Blood Angels lesser used warlord traits. When applying it to a combi-weapon I assume that it increases the Damage by 1 of this weapon’s two profiles. That’s the Rule As Written. For example, my Terminator Librarian warlord has a combi-weapon bolter/flamer, and has taken the Artisan of War trait, meaning that any damage output increases from 1 to 2 for both profiles. Am I correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358303-artisan-of-war-warlord-trait/#findComment-5580101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 bolt storm gauntlet on the gravis captain. its a single weapin with two profiles, RAW it impacts both ranged and melee as its a single weapon. BAjim 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358303-artisan-of-war-warlord-trait/#findComment-5580109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 It's my go-to trait if my warlord isn't a smash captain, even then sometimes it is, you can use 1cp to give it to someone else. D4 force halberds or hammers one shot support characters, and now outriders, also 2 shot opposing dreads or 3 shot 12W tanks instead of needing 3/4 wounds respectively. BAjim and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358303-artisan-of-war-warlord-trait/#findComment-5580335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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