Ichar Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) This is mostly speculation, asking for opinions: So maybe by April or May we will get some attention in PA? If December is Blood Angels/Tyranids, January is (rumored) Space Wolves / Orks, makes sense to me Dark Angels would be next in February versus who knows, then maybe Deathwatch / Necrons or GSC, that would leave Grey Knights / Chaos Daemons in April? At least that would give us something to look forward to :). What do you think? Edited for tone and content Edited November 13, 2019 by Ichar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5425353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andarius the Red Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Do we have an asigned order to what is revealed at a later date? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5425386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainely Wargamming Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Sisters are coming, that means there is T Minus 6-8 months before a new edition drops, if history is anything to go by. GW would be foolish to work on a bunch of new releases. Besides, GW has already said they will not be revisiting the BA/DA/GK for a long time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5425545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichar Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) Sisters are coming, that means there is T Minus 6-8 months before a new edition drops, if history is anything to go by. GW would be foolish to work on a bunch of new releases. Besides, GW has already said they will not be revisiting the BA/DA/GK for a long time. Well, it must be a long time because they are revisiting BA next month in PA 3 Edited November 13, 2019 by Ichar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5425684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainely Wargamming Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 How would it hurt profits? You would literally be forcing every player to buy a new set of books(Don't look now, BRBs on the pre-order GW Website). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5426266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andarius the Red Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Sisters are coming, that means there is T Minus 6-8 months before a new edition drops, if history is anything to go by. GW would be foolish to work on a bunch of new releases. Besides, GW has already said they will not be revisiting the BA/DA/GK for a long time. Well, it must be a long time because they are revisiting BA next month in PA 3 . Where did GW say that they would not be revisiting BA/DA/GK for a long time? Not trying to argue, just curious how I missed that and would like to see it for myself. Because if it is correct, I guess it is a longer wait than I imagined. I also believe that GW would be super foolish to destroy the goodwill they have built by invalidating all of the current army codices by releasing a radical new edition. It would be much wiser to release an updated rule set that keeps the current books usable. I could see the old GW doing it. The new GW? No. I think they are enjoying their record profits too much. I will admit, they've been churning out new content FAR more quickly as of late. It's almost monthly now when before it would have been years in between updates or additions. Apart from that the list of armies to benefit show that Grey Knights, Blood Angels and Dark Angels are getting updates. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5426343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainely Wargamming Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Well, according to rumor hogs on the podcasts, we are not getting word of new "supplements" for BA/DA. Nothing about GK yet, but color me surprised. I still say we should necro this thread in 6 months and find out who was right. I also have no clue what Supplements means. Is it a WD article or is it a 60+ page mini-dex? If that's the case, stop the train, I want off. I am sick of buying updates. Can I have 1 year where the models I bought are consistently good, without the need to FAQ/CA it into some frankenstein of it's former self? That's why I went to Custodes. They were good, and mostly unchanged since launch, with the exception of a few points changes, that I could easily write over the current codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5427294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andarius the Red Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 The main rule book for Space Marines is a codex, the books that came after detailing specific chapters ie White Scars, Ultramaines, Irons Hands, etc. Those are suppliments. More than likely we'll get something for Blood Angels, Dark Angels and Space Wolves either as suppliments or part of the psychic awakening event. If Grey Knights would be published, it would most likely be part of the Psychic Awakening event, to which I have no problems with. I'm only curious of what they plan to offer the chapter in terms of playability and tactics. with what we've seen with other chapters I'm fairly confident they'll make the GK and DW fun to play with in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5427523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 GK and DW are in a weird spot as chapters. Making all of them Primaris makes little sense and would be hard to pull off. The problem is that GW going forward isnt going to make non-Primaris. Maybe...maaaaaybe they would do a re-scaling for new GK models which I think would be easier to pull off. Wouldn't need to fiddle with questionable lore and funky wargear Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5427712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Didn't the first psychic awakening say that there was something for all armies? And didn't we have our symbol thingy as one of the chapter icons that are included? Or am I misremembering? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5428207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soder Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Didn't the first psychic awakening say that there was something for all armies? And didn't we have our symbol thingy as one of the chapter icons that are included? Or am I misremembering? Yup (sorry that’s the quickest post I could find about it) https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/cwtomm/factions_for_psychic_awakening/ Captain Coolpants 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5428279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Cool! So there's no wishing or hoping. We WILL be getting something. The question is what? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5428439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichar Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 How would it hurt profits? You would literally be forcing every player to buy a new set of books(Don't look now, BRBs on the pre-order GW Website). IMHO, keep forcing people to buy new libraries of books every two years, it will start to eat into profits as people get fed up with it and move on. But, with an influx of new players, it may not hurt profits. Honestly, if they released a new GK Codex tomorrow that addressed even half of our issues, I would pay for it no problem. Waking Dreamer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5428814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Cool! So there's no wishing or hoping. We WILL be getting something. The question is what? Well you can always check out the Black Templars (and to a lesser extent Chaos SM and Eldar) forums and see what they got from PA 1/2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5430395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichar Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Cool! So there's no wishing or hoping. We WILL be getting something. The question is what?Well you can always check out the Black Templars (and to a lesser extent Chaos SM and Eldar) forums and see what they got from PA 1/2. I think that PA 3 will be closer to the treatment we will get. I would imagine that our book will fall more in line with the non-compliant Codex rules. If we are really fortunate, Chapter Approved will have some stuff like point reductions to help us out, and maybe we will have our PA book in the first few months of 2020. At least that is what I am hoping for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5430731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andarius the Red Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 If you think about it we kinda got something from PA2 with the apothecary and techmarine updates. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5432041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichar Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 If you think about it we kinda got something from PA2 with the apothecary and techmarine updates. IF they apply to us. And that is a mighty big if. It also would have been helpful to get the chaplain rules. From the BA rumors I have seen, they are getting Angles of Death, doctrines, and chaplain litanies. I hope this is true and holds true when we get out our book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5432484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Well some rumors include PA campaign ending in the middle of next year, and then 9ed the next thing after that. So 9ed GK codex in the later half of next year maybe....2020 / 2017 deja vu...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5432646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) From WarCom article: Grey Knights are another set of Space Marines who’ve seen some significant reductions, across both characters and core units that every army uses. A member of a Strike Squad now costs, on average, a mere 17 points per model after you’ve kitted them out, while their Temrinator counterparts will now come to around 35 points a model. Edited November 25, 2019 by Corvus Fortis Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5433927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetcurse Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Strikes 4 points cheaper and termies 6 points cheaper. Wow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5433938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mel Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 After kit out so maybe they are even cheaper base cost or thiss means including stormbolter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5434007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMostGood Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Cautiously optimistic. Point drops are a good sign, but I still feel overall that GK need more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5434022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mel Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Cautiously optimistic. Point drops are a good sign, but I still feel overall that GK need more. Agree, reworked strats, doctrines and general levelling up to normal marines. But for now, I'll take cheaper squads! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5434026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 After kit out so maybe they are even cheaper base cost or thiss means including stormbolter Yes, they are and also it is stated the the new cost is "average", which means basic GK with SB could be even cheaper. Point drops are a good sign, but I still feel overall that GK need more. They are, but some point drops is very nice after all those nerfs in FAQs. Let's wait for our PA and see what new stuff the are bringing to us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5434027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 As long as it's not like last time we got a point drop! Getting all excited and then realising everyone else got point drops too so actually it didn't change anything. Yes I can fit more stuff in but so can everyone else! Soder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358578-thoughts-on-grey-knights-and-the-future/page/6/#findComment-5434129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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