Morticon Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Heya guys. Just thought I'd share this, albeit a bit late. China hosted its second ITC here, this one qualifying as a GT. Crons took the top spot, with a fantastic general behind the helm. Here is the list: Cryptek: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light Imotekh the Stormlord- Warlord 6x Immortal - Tesla Carbine 2x 5 Immortals - Tesla Carbine 6x Destroyer : 6x Gauss Cannon 9x Tomb Blades - vanes/loom Doomsday Ark Doomsday Ark Doomsday Ark Dynasty Choice . Dynasty: Sautekh Doom Scythe Doom Scythe Doom Scythe balordazul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I'm pretty sure I played that without the destroyers so I have no idea how that fits into 1750-2000. My opponent had more immortals and a lord but I wouldn't have thought that would allow 6 whole destroyers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5394688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 That list as written is 2,039 points. Nice to see Necrons win a thing. Sad to see it's "the list f. Destroyers" but at least it's doing well. I do hope that we don't see DDAs and Scythes get knocked down a peg in this year's Chapter Approved as a result. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5394845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronTuman Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 It is actually 2013 as printed, one Immortal over points value. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5395068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Krash Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 What are the Doom Scythes for/do? Noob question my apologies. Krash Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5395144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Isn't this the best Necron list you guys can do from the codex right now? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5395196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) It is actually 2013 as printed, one Immortal over points value. Possible I got the immortal numbers wrong!! What are the Doom Scythes for/do? Noob question my apologies.Krash The scythes drop their big MW strat. They pick a point on the board and then everything within 3" takes 3d3 MW on a 4+ (3+ if it has 5 or more models, 5+ if character).(works out to 1999 on mine) Not sure where the discrepancies are.Tomb-blades - 284, Destroyers 300.Immortals 90,75,75Lords 85 + 160Scythes 150 a popArks 160 Edited June 5, 2020 by NTaW Merged posts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5395200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Krash Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) That Strat sounds awesome and really good. Glad to see Necron's doing well. I have an old 3rd edition Battleforce and 6 Destroyers maybe I need to get them going. Was the whole army Sautekh? Krash Edited September 24, 2019 by Captain_Krash Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5395406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 It is entirely Sautekh, Imotekh is their big HQ option. Wow 9x Tomb Blades, each with gauss/tesla loom and vanes, comes to 324 in Battlescribe. No time to fact check right now but that may be the source of my discrepancy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5395419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2edition Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Be sure all of you are using the most recent release of battlescribe. They fix points all the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5395675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just verified between the Codex and CA2018, a Tomb Blade w. tesla/gauss is 28 and the vane/loom combo is 8. 36x9=324 unless they were using particle beamers which drops the unit 36 points and my initial calculation to 2,003. Sure am curious to see what this year's CA does to Necrons. The 3x TV w. Cryptek+Scarabs list was sorta funny and this core of 3x DDAs and 3x Scythes is solid but really the only options available for high damage/wounds and this many MWs dealt in a turn. It would be cool to see other units in the limelight on the competitive scene. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5395775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I've been out of the game for a long while, no basic troops? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5403669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Immortals are a troops choice INKS 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5403675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimyo-Phaeron Lenoch Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Necron troops tend to die very quickly in a meta that is designed to kill knights (who are basically mini-titans) and other superheavies very, very quickly. And when a necron army rocks up with only a few regular vehicles and maaaybe one superheavy, the troops die quickly, because all that extra firepower the other guy brought isn't gonna have any valid targets. Another reason is that We'll Be Back is now Reanimation Protocols, and while you roll for all dead troops every round (minus any that 'ran away' from morale), you stop rolling if the unit is dead, not when it gets out of range of another model of the same unit (so you can't rez your dead warrior blob with a min squad anymore). That said, 16 immortals with tesla is nothing to sneeze at, as they can put out a large amount of shots for their size, punch harder than bolters do (though with no armor pen), have decent armor saves, and can hold objectives whilst the big stuff (the arks and scythes) put the hurt on everything. Warrior blobs are unfortunately not very competitive (at high levels) at the moment, and GW's fix-it solution right now is 'drop the cost and rebalance later.' We're hoping for something nice in the next rules update, though. Welcome to the tombs, by the way. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5403676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 @charlo: Apologies, I knew they were a troop choice but was just a little sad to see no bulk warriors. @Daimyo: Thanks for the explanation on warriors vs immortals and why the warriors are weak. It's a shame to see the bulk troops not very usable if trying to be competitive. Also thanks for the welcome. Daimyo-Phaeron Lenoch 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5403716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimyo-Phaeron Lenoch Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Well, it’s not that warriors are weak per se, they just get focused down so much with firepower meant to kill bigger things that they don’t last very long. Ignored, they can do a lot. 40 gauss flayer shots at half range, with an extra bonus depending on which dynasty you play (a la chapter tactics) is nasty if played right. They hit hard but need help to get there, pretty much. INKS 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5403726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 @Daimyo: I understand. I should have worded that better in regards to the necron warriors. Are there other tournaments I should or can follow to see how the various armies are doing and holding up? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358646-east-china-open-necrons-win/#findComment-5403959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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