Rcketmouse Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Forgive me if I’m being dense but is the -1 to hit for Shadow Masters contingent on our having cover and being 12” away? So if we are more than 12” away we have cover. If we are more than 12” away and are on a terrain piece we have cover and -1 to hit, except vehicles. My question really is, if we are targeted by a unit or some effect that denies cover are we still -1 to be hit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358783-chapter-tactics-order-of-operations/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 You still get the -1, because that is solely contingent on being on terrain instead of getting the benefit of cover. You can plop a unit onto shipping crates and receive the bonis Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358783-chapter-tactics-order-of-operations/#findComment-5397941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I've been pondering this too Having reread the wording the -1 to hit is only contingent of being in terrain more than 12". Not having cover. So I would say yes we still get -1 to hit but no cover save bonus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358783-chapter-tactics-order-of-operations/#findComment-5397945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rcketmouse Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 Thanks guys, any other thoughts? My worry is that the way it’s worded is a run on sentence with the word AND between the cover and -1 conditions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358783-chapter-tactics-order-of-operations/#findComment-5397978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I think you're reading to much into Because there's also a comma and another pre qualifier before that... Also I haven't checked the SM FAQ yet is it addressed in there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358783-chapter-tactics-order-of-operations/#findComment-5397980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewarriorhunter Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I looked at the FAQ and don't recall anything about our CT in it. The IF infinite damage loop was addressed though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358783-chapter-tactics-order-of-operations/#findComment-5398079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Captain Vyper Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I have seen this discussed in multiple threads across multiple communities. Consensus is that the -1 to hit will not be negated by things that Ignore Cover. It is it's own separate clause. Also as Skimask mentioned, you simply have to be ON a terrain feature, which is, well, almost anything. It wasn't in the SM FAQ, but the Raven Guard FAQ could be next week, so we may see it addressed there, who knows (I doubt it though). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358783-chapter-tactics-order-of-operations/#findComment-5398089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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