Karthak Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Lmao everyone :cusss on Sigismund these days. Tbf, that seems to just be the default existence of the loyalists. Its gotten bad enough that Guilliman seems hard to buy as a threat and their only real challenge is them literally blowing up from being too OP to contain their own awesomeness. Its kinda funny actually, alot of the loyalist legions have spent most of the HH either doing very little, desperately clawing pyrhhic victories or getting crushed. Now the Siege books seemed to have adhered pretty hard to that trend while making the Traitors even more power on the premise that its okay because Horus is going to explode. Don't know why, but I am starting to get bad 'ME3 Ending' vibes from the trend here. I originally did not really favor adding Scouring books to the docket, but I am starting to feel like I might need them to justify how on earth the Traitors ended up in the eye. I must confess I've started feeling the same way in recent years. Especially with how loyalist characters keep dying left and right with traitors mostly surviving, because authors just couldn't resist filling their casts with characters who are guaranteed to survive to M.41 "cough Angel Exterminatus cough." StrangerOrders, Lord_Caerolion and Cerbero666 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5429307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Thirst Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 The posing of the central clash looks a bit odd, anglewise. Well now we know how they both survive the seige... Forrix tripped and landed on his face... unfortunately for Rahn, his terminator armour was too thick to get a good angle on him while Forrix rocked back and forth like a turtle... after 3 days they called a tie. mc warhammer and Lex D'Arquebus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5429514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubiquitous1984 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 I just finished reading the book. No spoilers but I was pleasantly surprised by the end. It was a really slow start but after the first third it started to pick up. The novel seemed longer than usual at approx 440 pages? I’ve got no idea how they are going to tie this all up satisfactorily in five more main books. There just seems to be so much more to talk about and so many events/major characters that need including. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5432756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 Figured this would be of interest (Rohr!): Link to full sized image Ubiquitous1984, Marshal Rohr, Kelborn and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5432849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 You are a saint. That is gorgeous. Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5432853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 That is some Chris Riddell-looking stuff, really wonderful. bluntblade 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5432864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Internal art, credit to Garro, on Facebook. Tymell, JH79, 1ncarnadine and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5432889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 Khârn wholeheartedly embracing the "drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword axe" meme. That Lorgar piece is really nice, although I'm very confused by the presence of the sole pauldron MegaVolt87, 1ncarnadine, Subtleknife and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5432894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 It's, uh, meant to remind him of the burden of truth. Or something. These depictions of primarchs in their civvies that they've been dropping in the siege books are fantastic. Corax is a dish. Roomsky and Tymell 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5432902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Is that Fafnir? :O Awesome art in general!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5432910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockagh Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Mine arrived today. The internal art work in this series so far has been incredible. I know many people loved Neil Roberts art in the main Heresy series but I can’t say it blew me away. These works including the busts, the character portraits and maps are on another level altogether. Marvellous Fire Golem and Roomsky 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5432952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Corax looks ridiculous. There was 0 reference to actual ravens or tokens on him throughout the entire series. His planet is a rad-blasted, strip mined pseudo forgeworld. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 review from Track of words https://www.trackofwords.com/2019/11/22/the-first-wall-gav-thorpe/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Corax looks ridiculous. There was 0 reference to actual ravens or tokens on him throughout the entire series. His planet is a rad-blasted, strip mined pseudo forgeworld. Not 100% sure, but weren't there images of Raven Guard Legionaries bearing Raven Skulls as tokens, which implies that there were Ravens on their homeworld to get them from? DarkChaplain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Corax looks ridiculous. There was 0 reference to actual ravens or tokens on him throughout the entire series. His planet is a rad-blasted, strip mined pseudo forgeworld. Looks like it has wires sticking out of it. They could be psyber-ravens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 They are cyber ravens Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Corax looks ridiculous. There was 0 reference to actual ravens or tokens on him throughout the entire series. His planet is a rad-blasted, strip mined pseudo forgeworld. Ordered from Amazon. Great place in the 30th pace to find anything, but shipping times can be a :cuss with warp currents and all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Do we know what the Custodes is facing? Dämon? Gal Vorbak? My personal highlights are Ran and the Chaos-Boys band *cough* group shot. Ubiquitous1984 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Corax looks ridiculous. There was 0 reference to actual ravens or tokens on him throughout the entire series. His planet is a rad-blasted, strip mined pseudo forgeworld. Kiavahr at the very least is home to raven-like creatures. To this day, Raven Guard dudes go on lone hunts to add their skulls to their belts and such. Biscuittzz and Kelborn 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Yeah, from memory the moon was strip-mined but not Kiavahr. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Do we know what the Custodes is facing? Dämon? Gal Vorbak? My personal highlights are Ran and the Chaos-Boys band *cough* group shot. haven’t got there in the book yet, but based on the art and the Dramatis Personae I’m guessing Cor’bax Utterblight Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Corax looks ridiculous. There was 0 reference to actual ravens or tokens on him throughout the entire series. His planet is a rad-blasted, strip mined pseudo forgeworld. Kiavahr at the very least is home to raven-like creatures. To this day, Raven Guard dudes go on lone hunts to add their skulls to their belts and such. That's all 40k and George Mann related (also terrible). Theres nothing in either the black books or the heresy series that indicates any form of bird or bird remains-collecting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Corax looks ridiculous. There was 0 reference to actual ravens or tokens on him throughout the entire series. His planet is a rad-blasted, strip mined pseudo forgeworld. Kiavahr at the very least is home to raven-like creatures. To this day, Raven Guard dudes go on lone hunts to add their skulls to their belts and such. That's all 40k and George Mann related (also terrible). Theres nothing in either the black books or the heresy series that indicates any form of bird or bird remains-collecting. Retribution page 22: Apothecary Kaylar Norn has two corvid skulls strung to his pauldron. Legionary Kirhane on page 46 appears to have a large skull set into his chest piece. The Raven Guard's bronze legion icon in Extermination also features two Corvid skulls strung to a pauldron. DarkChaplain and Fire Golem 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Written, not artwork man. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) Are we really discussing Corax & raven iconography? There are raven skulls as tokens on several Forge World Raven Guard pieces. Their Legion iconography includes ravens. Corax himself has raven symbols on him since years with his Primarch novel being the latest addition. I can't share some links right now but just google Raven Guard and Horus Heresy and you'll get Dark Furies with raven skulls on their kneepads, Corax' armor having them as well. Heck, even his official Forge World portrait got small chains with avian skulls on it. Why is that even questioned? It's been part of their culture since years. *edit* Why would he rename the XIXth Legion into Raven Guard if he's not familiar with ravens in the first place??? Edited November 24, 2019 by Kelborn Fire Golem, DarkChaplain, Sandlemad and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/358940-the-siege-of-terra-the-first-wall/page/5/#findComment-5433238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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