Why I Love Current 40k

[Schlitzaf]

8th Edition next to 5th has been easily for me personally the best edition of 40k. And with some more moaning recently, I wanted a thread myself and others could happily talk about this.

1) Keyword and Allies: I love how simple it made allying and soup’ing. No more weird allies detachments, or otherwise just look for same keyword

2) Ease of Play: Gone are arguments over templates, scatter dice, and facings replaces wirh at worst TLoS.

3) Faction Diversity: The sub faction traits are solid. And the little things additional Relics, Strategems being chapter dependent so on and so forth.

4) Primaris: Every Loyalist Astartes (bar GK) now gets toys every release. Gone are the days of 6th-7th where I would be waiting a several years for toys and when I got them they were toys not interesting to me. To me they also represent a truth that MeQ statline is worthless. And beyond just replacing MeQ statline with Primaris ones we got a whole new line. Also meaning as a BT I don’t get two editions of where my UU is unable to use the new toys because it’s an in addition not a replacement.

5) Strategems, and CP. Have some issues don’t get me wrong, it gives flavor but also avoiding the issues of something be always on or making certain actions feel special.

6) Indexes, for there time, the indexes were a solid cheap way to get into the game. And still today for those only considering I still recommend the 20 dollar indexes as they give all you the army rules as a good baseline and more.

 

Whatever everyone else love of 8th?

[Vykes]

While I might always find some stuff I like about previous versions of the game, y'know, yeah this is a good'n. There's a ton of stuff that I really enjoy so I'll stop at 5: and it's probably not even a top 5 but might as well to keep it from going on and on. 

 

1.) the intuitive to-hit and to-wound system. 

2.) The AP system return to a 2E style thing. 

3.) CP and strategems in general

4.) The real prominence of Maelstrom of War missions over Eternal War which took so much precedence in earlier editions.  The card packs really helped make this one a ridiculous amount of fun for me. 

5.) return of varied movement statistics.

 

Don't get me wrong, it ain't perfect and even some of these have issues built in, but I've been having more fun with 8E than I have since the halcyon days of 3E.  

[Marshal Rohr]

The to hit and wound system with the addition of damage and AP mods definitely feels super intuitive. The movement rules get certain units around very fast and feel more dynamic.

[Special Officer Doofy]

@Schlitzaf your reason #2 is the main reason I came back to the hobby (I quit in 2012). Your reason #5 not so much for me. Strategems and CP are so hard to balance. Certain lists have CP batteries and CP dumps and makes totally non fluffy list. Some factions have no good use for CP others can burn through them in a turn or two. But I do like the idea that as a general of your army it gives you more tactics and strategies. Just makes the game harder to balance.

 

8th brought codex releases out a little faster then normal but it's still not nearly fast enough. Biggest balance issue in this game is codex creep and time between releases in my opinion. Chaos space marines got a turd of a reprint as a codex and space marines got arguably the best codex with their last release. How long is chaos going to have to wait for their update with better legion traits that apply to their whole army, doctrines for mono army buffs, point reductions and so on? Could be upwards of a year.

 

But all in all 8th is my favorite edition so far. I feel they made alot of stuff simpler.

But I haven't played every edition and was born in 1990 so didn't even dabble till the late 90's haha.

[ERJAK]

It's not 7th.

 

There is no better measure of quality I can think of, no higher praise I can give than that.

 

(Because 7th was terrible.)

[kombatwombat]

That the game spent two full decades at a certain level of simulation and now has gone proverbials-deep as abstraction instead sticks in my craw, as it does for many other people.

 

That being said, there are a lot of great things about 8th Ed:

 

- Movement stat

- multi-damage weaponry

- the current Ap system

- balancing of monsters against vehicles

- subfaction traits/relics/Warlord traits/psychic powers

 

There’s also a bunch of things GW now does that have nothing to do with 8th Ed but started around the same time as it did:

 

- massively increased release schedule

- FAQ/errata frequency

- Warhammer Community in general

- community engagement

[mughi3]

The only thing I really like about 8th is that I can play it at epic scale (6mm) using half distances for movement & ranges with apocalyptic scale points(5,000+ per player) and not have it bog down. to me it is such a different game than all the previous editions, so I see it as a perfect replacement for the old epic rules.

 

when it comes to normal 2K or less play in 28mm I would rather play 5th edition or horus heresy (with 5th edition psyker & vehicle damage/assault rules), I am not going to say anymore here because there are a host of things I hate about 8th in normal scale and that's not what this topic is about.

[MARK0SIAN]

I’m not sure if I’d say 8th is my favourite but the things I like about it more than other editions I’ve played are:

 

1) Movement and particularly moving and shooting is much better.

2) Split fire on everything

3) Charging units you didn’t shoot at

4) Charging after shooting non-assault weapons

5) No more 80 Tonne tanks being damaged by driving over a hedge

[Grimdark_Garage]

1) Split fire

2) Removing templates

3) Characters are their own unit

4) No running away from failed morale

5) Simplified Psychic Tests and Phase

[Ishagu]

-No vehicle facings

-No templates

-Characters don't join units

-Primaris

-More thematic rules across books

 

It's a golden age

[Trench]

While 8th edition is probably the version I like the rules the most other then possibly 2nd, as a casual player who at best may play twice a month, I feel a bit abandoned by regular 40k, I would like a more stable game.

 

I am hoping Kill Team & Apocalypse will motivate me more to get my models on the battlefield, as I am loving the new models and everything else to do with current GW. 

[Vykes]

Oh C'mon mates, this is supposed to be a thread about what we like about 8E given what all the other discussions devolve into: Ishagu vs. the world, basically. 

 

Leave that at the door, lets just talk about what we like for once, mmmkay?  Otherwise we'll be stuck in the same cycle of, "Every single edition has been kinda wonky, with detractors on every side.  But X edition is the worstest!" 

[Ishagu]

Yeah that happens way too often. People do tend to dissolve any topics, even the ones that focus on positive things, into discussions about what they don't like :-(

[Brother Casman]

Agreed. We don't need yet another thread discussing what you "hate" about 8th edition.

[toaae]

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Folks, this is a topic for commenting on what you like about 8th edition. If you want to make threads about things you dislike, you can go ahead and do that, or comment in one of the many threads about it.

I've hidden all responses that go into things they dislike. If you'd like to re-comment with just the stuff you like, feel free. If you can't separate what you like from what you dislike, please refrain from posting in this thread. Finally, debating with other Frater on if they things they like are actually good is not in the spirit of the thread.

 

Thank you.

 

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[andes]

This may be a little bit too meta, but I really like the rate of releases in 8E. There's always something fun on the horizon, even it it isn't "for me." It beats the heck out of the boredom I felt when I left the game in 4E, that's for sure.

[Wulf Vengis]

An excerpt from a post i made about which edition was the best.

 

/quote/ Then 8th released... Perhaps THE MOST important edition since 3rd (regarding rules) (fight me). Warhammer 40,000 in its final form. An entire new rules system that reads and plays like 2nd and 3rd editions genetically spliced together into the "perfect" being. New factions, old factions so much fluff all over the place people with allergies are reaching for benadryl with one hand and new material with the other. Campaigns and events that matter alongside massive expansions that tell a story from start to finish. Truly a golden age if ever there was to be one. /quote/

 

I haven't played much this edition unfortunately but i love everything about it so far. Except maybe no first turn assaults, but you've gotta roll with the punches.

[Brother Eleysium]

8th Edition next to 5th has been easily for me personally the best edition of 40k. And with some more moaning recently, I wanted a thread myself and others could happily talk about this.

1) Keyword and Allies: I love how simple it made allying and soup’ing. No more weird allies detachments, or otherwise just look for same keyword

2) Ease of Play: Gone are arguments over templates, scatter dice, and facings replaces wirh at worst TLoS.

3) Faction Diversity: The sub faction traits are solid. And the little things additional Relics, Strategems being chapter dependent so on and so forth.

4) Primaris: Every Loyalist Astartes (bar GK) now gets toys every release. Gone are the days of 6th-7th where I would be waiting a several years for toys and when I got them they were toys not interesting to me. To me they also represent a truth that MeQ statline is worthless. And beyond just replacing MeQ statline with Primaris ones we got a whole new line. Also meaning as a BT I don’t get two editions of where my UU is unable to use the new toys because it’s an in addition not a replacement.

5) Strategems, and CP. Have some issues don’t get me wrong, it gives flavor but also avoiding the issues of something be always on or making certain actions feel special.

6) Indexes, for there time, the indexes were a solid cheap way to get into the game. And still today for those only considering I still recommend the 20 dollar indexes as they give all you the army rules as a good baseline and more.

 

Whatever everyone else love of 8th?

 

I was one of the many that got so disgusted with the direction of the GW, they're flavor of the month type business model, stale updates, and ever increasing rules complications that I called it quit during the latter end of 5th ed. I tried to briefly get back into the game during 6th and even an extremely small stint in 7th ed, and the rules were so bad, factions so lopsided I simply could not do it.

 

So this edition has recaptured me on a whole new level. And this is why:

 

1. The rules are simple yet have enough depth to keep it interesting
2. There seems to be a much heavier focus on balance for a lot of things(the recent marine addition may have been over the top)
3. A lot of things are being done for the hobbyist as opposed to competitive gaming(I quit playing competitively years ago)
4. The Chaos revamp was absolutely fantastic, long overdue, and made me fall in love with the Chaos Marine line all over again. The plastic Havocs were a God send, and the Abaddon model couldn't have been done better
5. Primaris and Space Marine love early and often. I can't think of a better done rolling release of new and exciting models for Marines in a long time
6. The release of Kill Team as it's own streamlined rules system that still ties into the 40K mechanics. My local group and I play it all the time. It truly made getting into 40K in some form or fashion extremely affordable. Plus I can get my 40K fix in when I don't have a lot of time.
7. The new paint line release. I tell people often there is no other company out there that pushes the envelope like GW to reinvent how we paint while giving us a massive amount of options to do so.

I could probably go on and on, but these stick out the most for me as I sit here typing this. 

[RandomMarine]

1. Quick to learn hard to master ruleset

2. No vehicle facings

3. Got rid of stupid tables

4. Fairly well balanced in a casual setting

5. Primaris

6. IH finally getting a Character

 

I'm so happy with 8th that my thousands of Points of 30K IH hasn't seen the table in a yeah except for the odd relic unit