Whitelion Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 https://funnyjunk.com/channel/warhammer40k/Warhammer+40k+titans/dxpkLqk/7 Hi guys, I read in this link that to guard the eternity gate there are two titans high kilometers, we don't know what class they are, we think they are Dark Age of Technology (at least in the link they affirm). By chance do you know in what novel the height of km of the 2 Titans is mentioned? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK0SIAN Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I’m going from memory so I could be mistaken but I think they’re two Warhound Titans from Legio Ignatum :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5410892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 It’s just two warhounds. A warhounds is approximately the same height as the Statue of Liberty. Like 45-46 feet tall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5410938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulf Vengis Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 The statute of liberty is not 45-46 feet tall. I'm not sure where you got that measurement but he/she's actually 305 feet tall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5410998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mughi3 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 i think he means without the base, just the actual statue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulf Vengis Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Still 151 feet. Foundation is 65 and pedestal is 89. Source: https://www.howtallisthestatueofliberty.org/ A km is 3280.84 feet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Yeh, I got meters and feet mixed up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Yeh, I got meters and feet mixed up. That and well, people tend to forget the Statue of Liberty is nowhere near as large as people think. :lol: Remember: Whenever you see a disaster movie with decapitated head of the Statue of Liberty, it's usually about 50% (or more) bigger than it actually is :lol: Then again, we're also talking Warhammer Imperial Titan sizes, which are notably wildly inconsistent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulf Vengis Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Lol heroic scale statue of liberty. Giant head and torch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaae Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I was under the impression they were just two warhounds, as well. I think it was described in the 3rd or 4th edition rulebook, though it's been long enough that I don't exactly recall.If the post you're referencing is correct, it's probably some obscure short story, maybe from a white dwarf or something. It'll take some digging to find that source, I'm sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mughi3 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Well a lot of illustrations are from perspectives to impose the giant size of titans. in the realm of mecha they are actually huge to the point of walking cities that should not be able to stand under their own weight. of course the authors in the black library books make them as large as plot requires. the warhound for example is as tall as the tallest and largest mechs in battltech and it is the smallest of the true god machines. coming up to the waist of a reaver. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Well, you do have the artwork of the Titan that has a ladder required to climb up from the gun casing into the gun barrel itself. Think it was from the cover of Titanicus? If that's correct, the titan is firing bullets the size of multi-storey towers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelion Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 It's in Titanicus: vivaporius 2 , i don't know how post the image, but is a warlord class, making a proportion would be about 6-700 meters higher. I like 40k for this, there are different sizes and armaments for ships and titans of the same class, we have imperator from 40-50-60-80-100 and even 150 meters, and even for ships it's the same thing, battleships go from 8 to 26 km in the same class of ships, and there are 10 km cruisers. I was intrigued by what was said in the post of the link I provided because the user claims that they are kilometers high. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Warlords definitely aren't that tall. Warhounds are 50m tall, give or take, and Warlords are 3 times the size of those, roughly. Even Imperator Titans, the absolute largest, would only reach a kilometre at best. Basically, Titans used to be very much up in the air about exactly how large they were, with the general consensus just being "very big". It was only around the time that the Forge World models started being made that they really cracked down on the "they're kilometres tall!" depictions, to the far more 'realistic' scale we get now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 A warhound Titan is 17.08m/56.03ft A reaver Titan is 25.21m/82.7ft A warlord Titan is 32.76m/107.4ft Per Titanicus, final numbers for Titan heights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Huh, could have sworn that Imperial Armour said Warhounds were 50. Must have mixed up with feet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 It probably did. If you went back through all the material they’ve ever written I’m sure someone made it meters instead of feet and then in another book it’s feet instead of meters. Until last year even the Forge World books weren’t consistent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelion Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 As far as I know all that is reported in the novels is canon, so the giant titans I have mentioned exist, they are not printing errors, they are canon because they are part of official novels. There are simply Titans of the same class but of different sizes, belonging to different armies. Also on wikia, lexicanum and 1for4chan report that they have a variable size. The same Titan Imperator, there are different sizes, from 40 to 150 meters. The photo of Titanicus: Vivaporius 2 is canon, it is not a fan made invention, and based on the size of the scale that warlord is at least 600 meters high. Look for it on google. I'm not saying that all warlods are 600 meters high, I'm just saying that there are some larger specimens and some smaller ones. They are exceptions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 In that case the Legions are simultaneously tens AND hundreds of thousands strong at the same time. Eldar vehicles can be destroyed by small children throwing stones. Tactical Marines can kill hundreds and hundreds of Kabalite Warriors each. The Burning of Prospero was simultaneously before and after the Fall of Istvaan, hell it's also simultaneously Istvaan and Isstvan. The White Consuls have their own Primarch, still alive and active when Gregor Eisenhorn was around. They're called retcons. Titans used to be hundreds and hundreds of metres tall, and fire projectiles the size of houses. Then the writers realized that that's stupid, and so toned it down. They don't, however, retroactively edit the books and artwork to change this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Really don't like how Imperator Titans have been downsized to 50-60m tall since Betrayer. Kinda weaksauce IMO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 As far as I know all that is reported in the novels is canon, so the giant titans I have mentioned exist, they are not printing errors, they are canon because they are part of official novels. There are simply Titans of the same class but of different sizes, belonging to different armies. Also on wikia, lexicanum and 1for4chan report that they have a variable size. The same Titan Imperator, there are different sizes, from 40 to 150 meters. The photo of Titanicus: Vivaporius 2 is canon, it is not a fan made invention, and based on the size of the scale that warlord is at least 600 meters high. Look for it on google. I'm not saying that all warlods are 600 meters high, I'm just saying that there are some larger specimens and some smaller ones. They are exceptions. There are not, because titans are built using STC constructs so you’re never going to have 150 feet tall warhounds and 45 feet tall warhounds, only 45 feet tall warhounds. Really don't like how Imperator Titans have been downsized to 50-60m tall since Betrayer. Kinda weaksauce IMO They can’t be much bigger. They already wouldn’t be able to not sink into the ground. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Also, for comparison with other famous robot walkers, the AT-AT is the size of a Reaver. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Imperators can have suspensor tech to help them not sink. Honestly, when has physics mattered in 40K. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykes Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I'll admit, I'm totally with b1soul on this one, the downgrade to micromachine titans has been pretty weak in the new publications. As for the actual question, yeah the two titans guarding the gates are warhounds sunk into the surrounding structure since the siege. They've been a sort of ceremonial murder mosaic for a while with their own honor guard princeps and all, but while sunk into it as a permanent decoration they are still on low power and fully functional. But they are the 45-50 X units high (pending on what you wanna believe and disregard), so not the big big ones. I think a lot of the confusion on what titans are the guardians comes from probably one of the more ye olden days artwork that kinda doesn't show what it's often attributed as: As for Whitelion's 600-700m titan, yeah I want to say it was on the cover of an Epic magazine publication too. Between it and the absolutely awesome (and to me, definitive) version of the Warlords on Armageddon, I did the math using some industry standard and yeah, it's definitely the 600-700m behemoth mark. Absolutely awesome pieces of work. As to 'it's too big', it's old Dark Ages and pre dark ages tech STC: the stuff that classifies Baneblades as a light tank model. It's supposed to be kinda awe inspiring, lost, and ridiculous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5411771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Arguing that Imperator Titans should be 50m tall because of realism is like arguing Godzilla should be 50m tall because of realism. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359320-2-titans-tall-km-to-guard-of-eternity-gate/#findComment-5412050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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