New Mephiston/Psychic awakening p3

[Morticon]

I wonder if they will take it from "minor buff" to lore-progressing massiveness.  Have him channel our Primarch and essentially become our version of a new Primarch? Would stop all the (silly imho) hopes for a Sanguinius return and give us something cool and comparable to play with!  

[Wolf Lord Duregar]

Yeah any Sanguinius returns are silly, pardon if that word upsets anyone.. Would make the Black Rage kinda pointless, eh? We are proud of what we are, are we not? And Sanguinius sacrifice for the Imperium and the Emperor.

[Aothaine]

I wonder if they will take it from "minor buff" to lore-progressing massiveness.  Have him channel our Primarch and essentially become our version of a new Primarch? Would stop all the (silly imho) hopes for a Sanguinius return and give us something cool and comparable to play with!  

 

Ohhh I really like this idea! As much as I want Sanguinius to stay dead to not lessen his sacrifice, I also want him to come back because... well his model and rules would just be amazing to have.

[keeblerartillery]

My fervent hope is to get a holy trinity of Sang - Dante, Meph and Sanguinor. Each an epic new model and rules reflecting an aspect of him - his tactical acumen, fury and grace

[Indefragable]

I’ve always loved/advocated for a Blood Trinity* with the Sanguinor as the inspiring angelic essence of Sanguinius, Mephiston as the dark psychic wrath, and Dante as the mortal** having to balance the two, all whole knowing that he can’t end the creak in his back with one last glorious charge since humanity/the Emperor/Sanguinius all need him above more to save the day at some final point.

 

 

 

*unless that’s the title for a Wesley Snipes movie already

**in a literary sense. as in “normal”, non-special-powers character when compared to the other two

Edited November 5, 2019 by Indefragable

[keeblerartillery]

Hah! Apparently you and I think alike defrag!

[FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants]

From what we've seen of Mephy, I think he's actually the second character they've had cross the rubricon thayve actually done right from an aesthetic perspective. The first being Kor'sarro. The Sally and the Fist look great, but they're brand new characters. The rest are pants IMHO. Edited November 5, 2019 by Captain Smashy Pants

[Panzer]

Yeah any Sanguinius returns are silly, pardon if that word upsets anyone.. Would make the Black Rage kinda pointless, eh? We are proud of what we are, are we not? And Sanguinius sacrifice for the Imperium and the Emperor.

 

Let's just say I heavily disagree with you and leave it at that. There has already been more than just one thread about it on this subforum and I'm perfectly fine with a heavily (narratively) buffed Mephiston and/or Sanguinor too.

Edited November 5, 2019 by sfPanzer

[Panzer]

From what we've seen of Mephy, I think he's actually the second character they've had cross the rubricon thayve actually done right from an aesthetic perspective. The first being Kor'sarro. The Sally and the Fist look great, but they're brand new characters. The rest are pants IMHO.

 

Khan looks awesome but I would've prefered having him on an actual Bike. I quite like the new Shrike too. Tigerius is meh and Calgar while fitting is boring too.

Feirros is a new character as well just like the Salamanders and the IF one. ;)

[brother_b]

I’d like the Sanguinor to channel our PrimarchSanguinius, and allow Mephiston to continue on his dark vampiric ways. Yin and yang that whole thing.

[Pathstrider]

I just hope that they change or rework his plasma pistol.... didn’t seem right that the Lord of Death might get blown up by his own sidearm (although I guess not many people overcharged it!) Edited November 5, 2019 by Pathstrider

[Indefragable]

I just hope that they change or rework his plasma pistol.... didn’t seem right that the Lord of Death might get blown by his own sidearm (although I guess not many people overcharged it!)

 

He should be able to throw it at enemies. I mean, if he's Sx2 in melee, then he'd probably be able to chuck it at a fool's head for S10 AP-3, right?

[Deadman Wade]

Khârn's plasma pistol is always overcharged, but he only suffers a mortal wound on 1s. Would be nice if Mephiston would get the same.

[Klod]

Khârn's plasma pistol is always overcharged, but he only suffers a mortal wound on 1s. Would be nice if Mephiston would get the same.

And every other Character armed with plasma.

[Zephaniah Adriyen]

 

Khârn's plasma pistol is always overcharged, but he only suffers a mortal wound on 1s. Would be nice if Mephiston would get the same.

And every other Character armed with plasma.

 

I think the rule should just be plasma deals mortal wounds on the modern Gets Hot rule. Nothing would change for stuff like Tacticals and Chosen, but Hellblasters would be just straight better and it'd be less of a gamble to give a character plasma.

[Blindhamster]

anyone have theories on what the actual BA rules update in the book might look like?

With a name like Blood of Baal, i really think maybe we'll see successor rules for BA in there. I imagine a system where ALL BA and successors have Red thirst, but they all get an additional rule on top of it, i doubt it'll just be any option from the standard successor list for marines because frankly some of those would probably be a bit much with red thirst.

I'd like to think we'll see an equivalent to doctrines, but with a different approach to fit the army.

I'd also like to think we'll see stuff to support the updated chaplain rules regular marines get (litanies).

 

Beyond that, perhaps a new relic or two, special issue wargear perhaps and maybe even some new strats.

I basically think this will be our unofficial (paid) codex update.

[Spagunk]

Not expecting too much, personally. I think they will touch chapter tactics a bit but I don't believe we'll get a full revamp.

My money is just successor chapter updates and retirement of certain strategems (ala current C: SM) or successor specific strats.

[brother_b]

Not expecting too much, personally. I think they will touch chapter tactics a bit but I don't believe we'll get a full revamp.

 

My money is just successor chapter updates and retirement of certain strategems (ala current C: SM) or successor specific strats.

 

I agree, I'm not expecting much for any of the "non regular" space marine chapters (BA, SW, DA). Too many odd units to deal with. I think the updates will be a flop, but an updated Mephiston with good rules will still be a bonus.

[Charlo]

It'll be interesting to see.

 

I think at worst we'll get *just* an updated Mephiston...

 

At best we'll get additional rules akin to Doctrines, some new Relics & Stratagems too.

 

I'm keeping my expectations low though (as much as I'm hyped by the possibility of something like IH power level...)

[Morticon]

Hopes: 

* All the new SM strats. 

* An additional "Chap.Tac"

That's all I ask for.  Any more are...

Dreams: 

 

* New, buffed Dante.
* Reworked powers

* Reworked WL traits

* Reworked relics

* Reworked DC

and host of others. 

Just hope they get those two. 

[Panzer]

I'll keep my expectations low because anything else would result in wishlisting and disappointment.

[appiah4]

I wonder if they will take it from "minor buff" to lore-progressing massiveness.  Have him channel our Primarch and essentially become our version of a new Primarch? Would stop all the (silly imho) hopes for a Sanguinius return and give us something cool and comparable to play with!  

 

Isn't Sanguinor already doing exactly that?

[Morticon]

 

I wonder if they will take it from "minor buff" to lore-progressing massiveness.  Have him channel our Primarch and essentially become our version of a new Primarch? Would stop all the (silly imho) hopes for a Sanguinius return and give us something cool and comparable to play with!  

 

Isn't Sanguinor already doing exactly that?

 

not with that statline and ruleset he aint. 

[Karhedron]

After "Phoenix Rising", I am keeping my expectations low. I would like to see us get Doctrines as well as the revamped Stratagems from the main codex. However PR was distinctly lackluster. It did little to address existing balance issues beyond repointing the Ynnari characters. Most of the additions were interesting and fluffy but did little to address the fact that half the units in the army are basically trash and competitive CWE and DE armies generally spam just a handful of over-powered units.

 

Obviously there has to be more content than just Mephiston but I am not getting my hopes up too high at this point. While I admit that Eldar did not need as much help as BAs do, PR was definitely a damp squib with which to launch PA.

[Pathstrider]

I wonder if they’ll incorporate the summer update into the book - hopefully not as that’s a lot of wasted pages.

 

Points cost changes are likely to be in chapter approved which is out at the same time.

 

There wasn’t anything on the leaked release sheet about a reissue of our codex so that makes it less likely it’s anything as extensive as vigilus ablaze/chaos codex reissue.