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Are you referring to the start collecting boxes? Or the boxed sets? It would he odd to get either given that Start Collecting! Primaris Space Wolves is so new while Sisters and Blood Angels are the next imperial factions to get psychic awakening releases.

He’s referring to a leak that a bunch of factions are getting battle force boxes. Which is typical for the holidays. And it just isn’t us. I have no idea what would be in the box. I’d be curious if they’re going to mix old marines with primaris marines. To my knowledge they haven’t in any box sets.

 

We really don’t have any wolf-only primaris. It would make sense for it to only be old marines. Or something like Ice pelt, intercessor, Wulfen, and a heavy option- maybe a vehicle... and another unit?

He’s referring to a leak that a bunch of factions are getting battle force boxes. Which is typical for the holidays. And it just isn’t us. I have no idea what would be in the box. I’d be curious if they’re going to mix old marines with primaris marines. To my knowledge they haven’t in any box sets.

 

We really don’t have any wolf-only primaris. It would make sense for it to only be old marines. Or something like Ice pelt, intercessor, Wulfen, and a heavy option- maybe a vehicle... and another unit?

Oh, of course, the holiday boxes. I' say.... 2-4 sets of the space wolves sprue (So 10-20 Grey Hunters/Blood Claws/PA Wolf Guard), 3 Thunderwolves, a vehicle of some kind, and Logan Grimnar or a Venerable Dreadnought kit for Bjorn (Our only plastic HQs who aren't primaris)

 

Going primaris would end up replicating the Start Collecting box, which doesn't seem ideal for GW. I don't think GW wants two of their products competing with each other so directly.

Edited by The Great Squark

I had the same thought re replication so wouldnt expect Aggressors or TWC. My guess is Wulfen (already Primaris sized) and maybe a Land Raider or even Stormwolf (might help with futureproofing) from our older range so to speak. Then Reivers as they fit a Wolfy Primaris theme plus some Primaris characters.

 

Dont see it as being all Primaris as why then bother with us and not Ultramarines or something

For comparisons

 

Last SW battleforce was

Stormfang

SW dread

5 Wgt

5 Fenrisian Wolves

Character

15 greyhunters/bloodclaws

 

Last years SM were

 

Repulsor, 3 Inceptors, 10 Reivers, 10 Intercessors, character

 

Redemptoe, 3 Aggressors, 5 Hellblasters, 10 Intercessors, character, upgrade sprue

Most likely the same as last year with imperial fists, basic primaris with some upgrade spurs. What they could do is make it a Phobos primaris battle force. No Phobos armored box sets out side of shadow spear. Might even toss in the impulsor or two to get to melee kinda idea.

My logic for no upgrade sprues is they wont want the Aggressor pads to go to waste :) and if they do aggressors (and intercessors) then thats just the Start Collecting Primaris Space Wolves box

 

Phobos box would be cool. And might get more people splitting the box and thus buying it

My money is that it will be some Primaris HQ's (maybe some upgrade sprues for these), some Primaris Troops, Aggressors, a Redemptor or Repulsor, and maybe one unique Wolf unit.  The thing to remember is that with Wolves and Blood Angels being the boxes, the units in them will need to be usable by the codex compliant sheep marines.

I didn't consider Phobos units... The Reiver Battle Leader (Gotta put some junk in there, after all :|), 10 Infiltrators/incursors, an impulsor, an invictor, and 3 Infiltrators, perhaps? The problem is there's no upgrade sprue for phobos... yet. Edited by The Great Squark

I would be surprised to see Phobos units in a discounted box so soon after release. I thought they normally waited a year before putting stuff in cheap bundles?

 

Happy to be proved wrong of course. I haven't bought any of the new Vanguard units yet so a battleforce would be a great excuse.

So, we got 10 Intercessors (with upgrade sprues), 5 Wulfen, an Iron Priest, and a flyer.

 

... Wow. I'm not sure I could make a more disjointed collection of models if I tried.

 

I mean, Fliers can't be consistently repaired by Iron Priests due to their minimum movement characteristic, The only legal passengers for the flier both want to be on the ground providing buffs/repairing...

 

Yeah, this definitely feels like GW trying to move kits they have too many of.

Edited by The Great Squark

So, we got 10 Intercessors (with upgrade sprues), 5 Wulfen, an Iron Priest, and a flyer.

 

... Wow. I'm not sure I could make a more disjointed collection of models if I tried.

 

I mean, Fliers can't be consistently repaired by Iron Priests due to their minimum movement characteristic, The only legal passengers for the flier both want to be on the ground providing buffs/repairing...

 

Yeah, this definitely feels like GW trying to move kits they have too many of.

Yeah its an odd one. Wouldve thought people are falling over intercessors/generic troops by now. Iron priest pays a premium point tax for his Tempest Hammer. Assume theres 2 upgrade sprues for the inters

 

€200 worth of stuff that will probably be what €145? Our last one had about €50 more worth of stuff in it

Edited by Dark Shepherd

Iron priest inclusion is weird. But the other stuff does get play. Wulfen are our best unit. The flier is a delivery method. Intercessors are good.

 

Priest could be converted to wolf lord for what it’s worth. And then you have a good force.

The unit synergy doesn't make sense as you all have said.

 

The wulfen are too much for a stormfangs, and only fill a stormwolf 10 of 16 spots. Sure you could throw the iron priest in there, but what does he do? He isn't fixing the stormwolf, and hes probably not charging into combat with the wulfen.

 

Then the intercessors are going to have to foot slog it up the board and won't be of any fire support for the wulfen.

 

I agree it feels like model clearing time. Most people will only get 1 unit of Wulfen because they are so expensive, 1 stormfangs/wolf because it is also expensive. I don't know anyone who uses our iron priest, or if they do it's a single one. The intercessors are good to have extra on hand as they are 17 ppm. So 3 of 4 units you only keep 1 on hand, and most people have those anyways.

Edited by Jarl Caldersson

So, we got 10 Intercessors (with upgrade sprues), 5 Wulfen, an Iron Priest, and a flyer.

 

... Wow. I'm not sure I could make a more disjointed collection of models if I tried.

I agree with you. And yet.....

 

Those are all cool units that I have somehow not got around to adding to my army quite yet. I feel an impulse buy coming on. :smile.:

So, we got 10 Intercessors (with upgrade sprues), 5 Wulfen, an Iron Priest, and a flyer.

 

... Wow. I'm not sure I could make a more disjointed collection of models if I tried.

 

I mean, Fliers can't be consistently repaired by Iron Priests due to their minimum movement characteristic, The only legal passengers for the flier both want to be on the ground providing buffs/repairing...

 

Yeah, this definitely feels like GW trying to move kits they have too many of.

 

I think you can read between the lines here and figure out which elements are going to remain prominent parts of the range going forward.

 

Aside from the Iron Priest, which is relatively recent plastic model (only 4 years old), no small-scale Marine infantry.

 

GW really needs to get going on some Space Wolf specifc primaris infantry, I am starting to get antsy as my bitz box goes dry.

 

So, we got 10 Intercessors (with upgrade sprues), 5 Wulfen, an Iron Priest, and a flyer.

... Wow. I'm not sure I could make a more disjointed collection of models if I tried.

I mean, Fliers can't be consistently repaired by Iron Priests due to their minimum movement characteristic, The only legal passengers for the flier both want to be on the ground providing buffs/repairing...

Yeah, this definitely feels like GW trying to move kits they have too many of.

 

 

I think you can read between the lines here and figure out which elements are going to remain prominent parts of the range going forward.

 

If the stormwolf is going to remain relevant then GW better be giving it capacity to transport primaris.

 

The intercessors are good to have extra on hand as they are 13 ppm. So 3 of 4 units you only keep 1 on hand, and most people have those anyways.

Thats the points for GH/BC

You got me all excited there for a minute

Whoops, still 17ppm I feel is still great for their effectiveness (if not better than GH). They just lack soul and character.

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