Dark Angels and chapter approved

[UtariOnzo]

Finally an option for a Successor Chapter Master?

 

As for the comment about Codex Astartes, I’m going to take that to imply our points costs for generic units will be brought into line with C:SM. Maybe an outside chance of getting access to some units like Centurions.

[Berzul]

Successor chaptwr masters.... If only *fingers crossed*

[Guest MistaGav]

Well I was thinking more along the lines of the chapter champion, apothecary, techmarine and all that stuff but I'd take that as well. Bonus points if they have a bike option too.

[Angel of Solitude]

There have been some points leaks on Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerCompetitive/comments/e2v510/chapter_approved_points_updates/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf.

 

Nothing specific for Dark Angels, but I did notice that the Blood Angels Terminator Ancient is down 21 points to 87 points, and Dante is down 25 points to 150...maybe we'll see similar changes to Azrael and Deathwing Ancients, and more?

 

EDIT:

 

OK, the pages are very blurry, but:

 

Asmodai down 20 to 110

Azrael down 30 to 150

Belial down 25 to 125

Ezekiel down 25 to 110

Sammael in Sableclaw (very blurred) but maybe down 16 to 200?

Sammel on Corvex (very blurred) but maybe down 43 to 140?

 

No changes to weapon costs from what I can see.

Edited November 28, 2019 by Angel of Solitude

[G8Keeper]

Got my wish for special character reductions it seems. All very includable points wise now I feel.

[oldmanlee]

Interesting

 

I find one thing odd in the space wolves points why in the world would gw put land speeder up by 25pts what are they on? Or do they just not want to sell the models anymore bizarre move

[Angel of Solitude]

Yeah, I really don't understand the Land Speeder. I think it's a type - Space Marines v2 Codex says 45 points, would make sense for DA/BA/SW to have theirs dropped by 5 points too.

[oldmanlee]

Yeah, I really don't understand the Land Speeder. I think it's a type - Space Marines v2 Codex says 45 points, would make sense for DA/BA/SW to have theirs dropped by 5 points too.

I don't get it myself but then I don't get gw bizarre rules logic anymore the power creep in this edition is the worst I can remember in all the years I've been playing

[Angel of Solitude]

Should also add:

 

Devastors down 2pts per model, and heavy bolters now appear to be 8pts.

[Hantheman]

All our names characters are down in points. Azrael to 150. Sammy to ?200. Ezekiel/Asmodai to 110

 

Space wolf leaks show land speeders up in points... for some reason....

Hellblasters down by 2 points

No changes to attack bikes sadly

 

Nothing else yet.

[Angel of Solitude]

Not only Land Speeder but Swiftclaw bikes are up from 21 to 23, and Swfitclaw attack bikes are up from 25 to 35? I hope we don't see these increases in the Ravenwing equivalents because that would be a massive loss.

 

EDIT

 

Looking at it, the Fast Attack section in the SW leak appears to be a lift-and-drop from the Codex, with points only updated for the Fenrisian Wolves. 70 points for a Land Speeder is the original codex cost.

Edited November 28, 2019 by Angel of Solitude

[oldmanlee]

Not only Land Speeder but Swiftclaw bikes are up from 21 to 23, and Swfitclaw attack bikes are up from 25 to 35? I hope we don't see these increases in the Ravenwing equivalents because that would be a massive loss.

 

EDIT

 

Looking at it, the Fast Attack section in the SW leak appears to be a lift-and-drop from the Codex, with points only updated for the Fenrisian Wolves. 70 points for a Land Speeder is the original codex cost.

Tbh I don't see the logic in the speeder points hike I hope there wrong but again you never know with gw

[ValourousHeart]

They would have to change Jink to be a lot closer to the version SM get with their strat in order to justify a point hike.

 

But that said, I would happily pay more for RW units that always have 4++, and a 3++ when they advance.

[G8Keeper]

As Angel of Solitude said, the SW leaks look to have been lifted from the codex not CA.

[oldmanlee]

As Angel of Solitude said, the SW leaks look to have been lifted from the codex not CA.

Yeah let's hope so

 

The points drops on the named characters looks promising so that good in my book

[Angel of Solitude]

Ok, so changes as follows:

 

Black Knights down 4

Land Speeder Vengeance down 34

Ravenwing Land Speeder down 5

Nephilim down 33

Dark Talon down 15

DW Ancient down 48 (!)

DW Champion down 28

DW Apothecary down 5

DWK down 2

RW Ancient down 37

RW Champion down 36

RW Apothecary down 32

 

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Edited November 30, 2019 by Angel of Solitude

[G8Keeper]

Wow some hefty drops there!even the dark talon got in on the action!