SydonianDragoon404 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Ancient Breviary? Whichever one allows you to roll 2 dice for your litany roll. Edited December 9, 2019 by SydonianDragoon404 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359878-competitive-black-templars-pa2/page/10/#findComment-5443544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST.Lazarus Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 If Black Templars get access to the Imperial Fist stratagems, warlord traits and special issue wargear as a Imperial fist successor they can be reasonably competitive. My big fear is that Games Workshop will say in the FAQ that the Black Templar list is a stand alone supplement. My current list is a mechanises all primaris list, where the focus is on shooting and taking objectives. It has some good counter assault potential and can lay a lot of pressure on un-prepared opponents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359878-competitive-black-templars-pa2/page/10/#findComment-5443687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I think there are two ways - both will be easy for GW. One way is to forget about this and we still have access to both. The other way is that they say take this OR that. The best way would be access to the Stratagems and their relics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359878-competitive-black-templars-pa2/page/10/#findComment-5443700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I think access to one doctrine bonus or the other, but only one would be ideal. I would take the IF one for tank heavy lists, and BT for a good punch up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359878-competitive-black-templars-pa2/page/10/#findComment-5443711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST.Lazarus Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I don't think it will be a choice or both, the doctrine will be knights of Sigismund. What i mean is that GW might look at the faith and fury list as a free standing supplement to codex space marines instead of something like crimson fists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359878-competitive-black-templars-pa2/page/10/#findComment-5443763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmu Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I hope that they can be used, not because I want to use them, but because it means that GW actually cares a smidgen about the army instead of just treating us as a footnote or the unwanted child. What I mean, is that if the combo with IF was meant to happen, it means that there's a REASON we are in such a small spot in comparison to the other big chapters. Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359878-competitive-black-templars-pa2/page/10/#findComment-5443793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I have a nice new combo... Company Champion with our new Relic and "Champions of humanity" is a brutal Knight Killer. If you get into Close combat ( charge from a LRC with Stratagem or threw a BLOS wall to be save from Overwatch) he kill a Knight in one phase. 6 attacks on 2 with reroll _ 5,83 hits_ 4,735 wounds_3,6458saves_10,9375 damage without Assault doctrine 13,125 in assault doctrine If he dies and take "only in death..." you can double it... what is a dead knight in one round. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/359878-competitive-black-templars-pa2/page/10/#findComment-5448218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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