Lascadakka Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hi Guys, I have to play against Imps. I never played against them so I need a bit Help. I cant decide wich list I should play.++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Space Marines) [18 PL, 2CP, 350pts] +++ No Force Org Slot +**Chapter Selection**: UltramarinesStratagem: Honoured Sergeant [-1CP]+ Lord of War +Roboute Guilliman [18 PL, 3CP, 350pts]: Warlord++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [44 PL, 8CP, 833pts] +++ No Force Org Slot +**Chapter Selection**: UltramarinesBattle-forged CP [3CP]Detachment CP [5CP]+ HQ +Chief Librarian Tigurius [7 PL, 130pts]: 2) Scryer's Gaze, 3) Telepathic Assault, 4) Storm of the Emperor's WrathSergeant Chronus [2 PL, 30pts]+ Troops +Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 170pts]: Bolt rifle. 9x Intercessor. Intercessor Sergeant: ChainswordIntercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Bolt rifle. 4x Intercessor. Intercessor Sergeant: ChainswordScout Squad [4 PL, 57pts]. Scout Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter. 4x Scout w/Boltgun+ Fast Attack +Bike Squad [4 PL, 93pts]. Biker Sergeant: Storm bolter, Twin boltgun. Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun, Twin boltgun. Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun, Twin boltgunBike Squad [4 PL, 93pts]. Biker Sergeant: Storm bolter, Twin boltgun. Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun, Twin boltgun. Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun, Twin boltgun+ Heavy Support +Predator [8 PL, 175pts]: Predator autocannon, Two Lascannons++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [27 PL, , 567pts] +++ No Force Org Slot +**Chapter Selection**: UltramarinesDetachment CP [1CP]+ HQ +Captain [5 PL, -1CP, 76pts]: Chainsword, Paragon of War, Storm bolter, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, Vengeance of Ultramar+ Elites +Aggressor Squad [10 PL, 185pts]. 4x Aggressor. Aggressor Sergeant: Master-Crafted Weapon. Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade LauncherVenerable Dreadnought [6 PL, 153pts]: Twin autocannon, Twin lascannonVenerable Dreadnought [6 PL, 153pts]: Twin autocannon, Twin lascannon++ Total: [89 PL, 10CP, 1,750pts] ++Created with BattleScribeList NR 2++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [40 PL, 6CP, 725pts] +++ No Force Org Slot +**Chapter Selection**: UltramarinesBattle-forged CP [3CP]Detachment CP [5CP]Relics of the Chapter [-1CP]: Number of extra Relics+ HQ +Captain [6 PL, -1CP, 108pts]: Chainsword, Combi-melta, Jump Pack, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, Teeth of Terra, The Imperium's SwordChief Librarian Tigurius [7 PL, 130pts]: 1) Precognition, 2) Scryer's Gaze, 3) Telepathic Assault+ Troops +Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 171pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle. 9x Intercessor. Intercessor Sergeant: ChainswordIntercessor Squad [5 PL, 86pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle. 4x Intercessor. Intercessor Sergeant: ChainswordScout Squad [4 PL, 55pts]. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun. 4x Scout w/Boltgun+ Heavy Support +Predator [8 PL, 175pts]: Predator autocannon, Two Lascannons++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [27 PL, -1CP, 604pts] +++ No Force Org Slot +**Chapter Selection**: UltramarinesDetachment CP [1CP]+ HQ +Chapter Master [5 PL, -2CP, 76pts]: Chainsword, Paragon of War, Storm bolter, Stratagem: Chapter Master, Vengeance of Ultramar, Warlord+ Elites +Aggressor Squad [10 PL, 222pts]: 5x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant. Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade LauncherVenerable Dreadnought [6 PL, 153pts]: Twin autocannon, Twin lascannonVenerable Dreadnought [6 PL, 153pts]: Twin autocannon, Twin lascannon++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [24 PL, 1CP, 421pts] +++ No Force Org Slot +**Chapter Selection**: UltramarinesDetachment CP [1CP]+ HQ +Sergeant Chronus [2 PL, 30pts]+ Fast Attack +Bike Squad [4 PL, 93pts]. Biker Sergeant: Storm bolter, Twin boltgun. Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun, Twin boltgun. Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun, Twin boltgunBike Squad [4 PL, 93pts]. Biker Sergeant: Storm bolter, Twin boltgun. Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun, Twin boltgun. Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun, Twin boltgunInceptor Squad [14 PL, 205pts]: Assault bolter x2, 4x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant++ Total: [91 PL, 6CP, 1,750pts] ++Created with BattleScribeOther Units I have:10 Termis3 Centurions with GravLandraiderTacsRazorback with Assault CannonRedemtor Dread10 HellblasterAncientSmash Captain with Hammer and SchildMarneus CalgarSome help would be nice I think I will face a lot of tanks :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360028-ultras-vs-imps/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 The light grey text on white background is difficult to read. "Imps" could be interpreted as Imperial Fists or Imperial Guard (Astra Militarum). Which will you be facing? And do you have an idea of what your opponent's army list will include? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360028-ultras-vs-imps/#findComment-5430461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascadakka Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 The light grey text on white background is difficult to read. "Imps" could be interpreted as Imperial Fists or Imperial Guard (Astra Militarum). Which will you be facing? And do you have an idea of what your opponent's army list will include? I play against Astra Militarium Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360028-ultras-vs-imps/#findComment-5430468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exilyth Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Can you say anything about what units you expect your opponent to bring? e.g. infantry only, tanks only, a mix? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360028-ultras-vs-imps/#findComment-5432510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Both are decent. I like list two because of armour saturation. Why Bikes though? If you had two units of 3 Suppressors, I would love to see them instead and recommend taking the list. Seeing as you do not have any though, and considering the units you have, I'd say the list is fine. That the second one. In the long-run, I would recommend investing in Suppressors, more Intercessors and a (Primaris) Chaplain or Cassius. Arguably, they buff better than psykers these days. Simply more efficient in UM lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360028-ultras-vs-imps/#findComment-5432515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Are Suppressors available yet in a separate kit ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360028-ultras-vs-imps/#findComment-5432533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialTuba Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Are Suppressors available yet in a separate kit ? I don't think so. Closest I've seen is the new Start Collecting box that's just the Space Marine half of Shadowspear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360028-ultras-vs-imps/#findComment-5432540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascadakka Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 Game is done I played this list ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [36 PL, 5CP, 678pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Long-range Marksmen, Stealthy, Ultramarines Successor Battle-forged CP [3CP] Detachment CP [5CP] Stratagem: Honoured Sergeant [-1CP] + HQ + Captain [5 PL, 124pts]: Storm shield, The Imperium's Sword, Thunder hammer, Warlord Chapter Master [5 PL, -2CP, 85pts]: Chainsword, Combi-plasma, Stratagem: Chapter Master + Troops + Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 170pts]: Bolt rifle . 9x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Tactical Squad [4 PL, 62pts] . 4x Space Marine . Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter Tactical Squad [4 PL, 62pts] . 4x Space Marine . Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter + Heavy Support + Predator [8 PL, 175pts]: Twin lascannon, Two Lascannons ++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [27 PL, 1CP, 618pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Stealthy, Ultramarines Successor Detachment CP [1CP] + HQ + Librarian [5 PL, 90pts]: 2) Scryer's Gaze, 3) Telepathic Assault, Force stave, Storm bolter + Elites + Aggressor Squad [10 PL, 222pts] . 5x Aggressor . Aggressor Sergeant: Master-Crafted Weapon . Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Venerable Dreadnought [6 PL, 153pts]: Twin autocannon, Twin lascannon Venerable Dreadnought [6 PL, 153pts]: Twin autocannon, Twin lascannon ++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [27 PL, 1CP, 454pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection** Detachment CP [1CP] + HQ + Lieutenants [5 PL, 63pts] . Lieutenant: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun + Fast Attack + Bike Squad [4 PL, 93pts] . Biker Sergeant: Storm bolter, Twin boltgun . Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun, Twin boltgun . Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun, Twin boltgun Bike Squad [4 PL, 93pts] . Biker Sergeant: Storm bolter, Twin boltgun . Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun, Twin boltgun . Space Marine Biker w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun, Twin boltgun Inceptor Squad [14 PL, 205pts]: Assault bolter x2, 4x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant ++ Total: [90 PL, 7CP, 1,750pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Git really strong first round. My enemy could only kill 3 aggressors und westopped after my second round. Well he was very unlucky with dice rolling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360028-ultras-vs-imps/#findComment-5432626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascadakka Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 I play bikes sometimes because their cheap, tought, gave me special weapon and lots of bolter shots. And they are fast give me good board control and they let me get tactical objectives really quick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360028-ultras-vs-imps/#findComment-5432629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joukernaut Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Bikes aren't bad, they are quick, somewhat tough and have a decent amount of shots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360028-ultras-vs-imps/#findComment-5433131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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