Mephiston New Rule Thoughts?

[Morticon]

"Most people" put him in drop pods and/or SR's to protect him before casting WoS, so it does make a difference.

 

That WoS drop trick was booted years ago, bud :/ 

 

[Morticon]

He will be salvageable with unique strats, or a big discount.  I dont foresee either.  In the current marine meta, he's unlikely to see play from me.  

[keeblerartillery]

He will be salvageable with unique strats, or a big discount. I dont foresee either. In the current marine meta, he's unlikely to see play from me.

Best looking Phobos Libby out there

[redshadow]

Really.... maybe I see somethings different but he’ll be an auto include in my lists

[Karhedron]

I agree, Mephy looks pretty competitive. When he got a price bump in the last CA, I started to lean towards the Libby Dread in that role. If he stays the same price then with +1A/+1W, he looks to be back in contention IMHO.

[tychobi]

Missed opportunity. I am uninspired.

[Morticon]

Really.... maybe I see somethings different but he’ll be an auto include in my lists

 

Share why!! 

[redshadow]

For 160pts

He’s a threat from turn one

Hard to kill

Can be used for counter attack or protection

Can easily clear an objective of chaff

He’s an absolute beast in combat

He can deny 2 powers

Has enormous reach

 

He’s not cpt slam but he plays a different roll

[Remtek]

I prefer the libby dread, but if our other units become more viable it will be nice to slot him in being able to know 3 powers so he can have wings/quicken unleash rage or shield (hoping it will come back to 4++)

[Karhedron]

PA3 still refers to the BA Codex for psychic powers so we may not get any changes there. CA19 is a possibility but usually focuses on points changes.

[Dont-Be-Haten]

Added this to the wrong thread. Too many Mephiston titles. My bad! Edited November 27, 2019 by Dont-Be-Haten

[Remtek]

Having an extra 6 inches on boil blood is huge too when playing vs deathwath or similar. That power has been so good in some matchups, but the range is very short.

[Panzer]

The problem with Blood Boil is that it's usually better to just cast Smite unless you want to snipe a specific unit. Same with Blood Lance.

[Remtek]

The problem with Blood Boil is that it's usually better to just cast Smite unless you want to snipe a specific unit. Same with Blood Lance.

 

You can cast both :D last game vs deathwatch he did 6 mortals to a vet unit (with some hot rolling) Charging into 3+ invuls can be sad at times.

[Panzer]

 

The problem with Blood Boil is that it's usually better to just cast Smite unless you want to snipe a specific unit. Same with Blood Lance.

 

You can cast both last game vs deathwatch he did 6 mortals to a vet unit (with some hot rolling) Charging into 3+ invuls can be sad at times.

 

 

Or you could another useful power like wings or shield or such. :P 

[Dont-Be-Haten]

 

 

 

 

The problem with Blood Boil is that it's usually better to just cast Smite unless you want to snipe a specific unit. Same with Blood Lance.

You can cast both last game vs deathwatch he did 6 mortals to a vet unit (with some hot rolling) Charging into 3+ invuls can be sad at times.

Or you could another useful power like wings or shield or such. :P

To be fair we are talking about the libby dread. I just posted in the wrong thread. If both mephiston and libby dread are on the board the new relic would be a positive for things like blood boil etx. If you've already spent wings and shield on meph.

[Panzer]

 

 

 

The problem with Blood Boil is that it's usually better to just cast Smite unless you want to snipe a specific unit. Same with Blood Lance.

You can cast both last game vs deathwatch he did 6 mortals to a vet unit (with some hot rolling) Charging into 3+ invuls can be sad at times.

Or you could another useful power like wings or shield or such.

To be fair we are talking about the libby dread. I just posted in the wrong thread. If both mephiston and libby dread are on the board the new relic would be a positive for things like blood boil etx. If you've already spent wings and shield on meph.

 

 

To be also fair, Wings and Shield are about the two most useful powers on a Libby Dread just as they are on Mephiston. They kinda occupy the exact same role in a list so I'd never take them together anyway. ^^

[Remtek]

Sometimes you play against armies that will be in your face all game where wings is not 100% mandatory, but i agree it quickening and wings are the main staples. Food for thought tho!

[SnorriSnorrison]

Yeah Meph and a Libby dread seem exclusive, it’s either the one or the other because of the powers they both need.

I’d always add the humble JP Librarian to to either one, with shield and unleash rage.

[Indefragable]

Wings and Quickening = mandatory.

 

Shield and Unleash = nice to haves (a 4++ from Shield like in the Index would be different).

 

Blood Boil and Lance = meh.

[Chronos1985]

I am thinking I may just do Mephy, and Phobos Librarian as my support caster. I still think Shield of Sanguinius is a very good cast, and the Phobos Librarian fits that role nicely with where its points are at.

[Karhedron]

He will be salvageable with unique strats, or a big discount.  I dont foresee either.  In the current marine meta, he's unlikely to see play from me.

Looks like Mehpy is back down to 145 points. That is about the price of a Libby dread and I would say he compares very favourably.

[redshadow]

Me too 145pts he’s a no-brainier, can’t believe he’s so cheap Edited November 27, 2019 by redshadow

[Morticon]

Me too 145pts he’s a no-brainier, can’t believe he’s so cheap

 

 

I think there would still be a toss up between a lib dread and him, tbh. 

[The Unseen]

Yeah

The dread hits harder and more reliably with wisdom of the ancients, -4 AP vs -3, and flat 3 damage vs d3, but Mephiston is slightly harder to kill, knows a 3Rd power, and is INFANTRY.

So pretty similar.

A pure beatstick?

Librarian dread.

A beatstick who can also throw out a buff spell when needed, Mephiston.