Schlitzaf Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Ace feel free to move this elsewhere but for lack of better place; so there are some....issues with our book currently. That many, myself included have voiced notably the Crusader Squad “nerf”. BUT I do bring hope something stood out to me. 3 of our 4 Vows have been represented now in rules, Uphold, Abhor and Suffer. But the strongest and greatest of our vows have not been; Accept Any Challenge. I would speculate, we will see another Templar release. Another reason, Marshall Gerard, and the Lady Inquistor are the face characters for Imperium so far in Awakening. Well maybe we will see if Gerard sticks. And Gerard is a Primaris’d w/ tabard. Also the notable lack of studio Primaris models. And GW rarely shows models w/o rules or a kit. And how we lack some of the things notably a proper SIW list. So...accept any challenge not being a strategem, Gerard existence and to some degree editing questions for our section of the rules. Also by extension none of our Vigilus stuff being ported in the book. I think, we will see another Templar Release or Wave. /tinfoil hat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Not before June if it happens. I dont see GW revisiting BT again before the new edition. Like I had previously said, this is end of edition rules for BT similar to gathering storm. I would be pleasantly suprised by new models and the rest of our Strats, and already theorized that we could see another 8 strats in a new release eventually to make the 16 the other chapters have. Like I said on another thread, I dont think that the fact the Battle Brother had a tabard means anything. It's not the first time GW depicts a Black Templar in artwork that never translated into an actual model. Our only Primaris artwork for 2 years, the BT battling the khorne daemon, does not exist in model format. Our best option is a box release similar to sisters and upcoming aos chaos, or even a battle force box like IF had last year. But hey I hope I'm wrong. Edit: We also dont know what Hel and Grim are doing at the moment. Edited November 21, 2019 by Sete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5431753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 the model next to the hellblaster has a model... its possible to make that Primaris model with the kitz from our current sprue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5431780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmu Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 There HAVE been rumors of an Orks vs. BT starter box that went silent for a while... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5431822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) There HAVE been rumors of an Orks vs. BT starter box that went silent for a while...The same rumours also mentioned Ghazz, not exactly on the same box set so who knows, it could be a new edition starter set or a box before SW vs Orks shadowspear style.Edit: Rewatched the video. It's a vs box BT and Orks and he did say that Ghazghull would be out around the same time, but not necessarily in the box. According to our french source, Ghaz is facing Ragnar in PA4, so one could assume we are back in Armaggedon. So our time frame is PA4 release. I believe there is a reason we have our own tab on the store. Let's see how long it will take. Edited November 21, 2019 by Sete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5431858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Well Kirioth changed his tune to SW vs Orks, but as a 9th edition starter set. We will know soon enough. Dont have high expectations tho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5432415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I think something IS in store for Templars, but not within a close time frame. Edition hop seems likely next summer, and I wouldn't hold my breath for us being first out the gate when that happens either. Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5432418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I think something IS in store for Templars, but not within a close time frame. Edition hop seems likely next summer, and I wouldn't hold my breath for us being first out the gate when that happens either. They could release an EC along with Sigismund becoming the EC in the siege books. That possibility came to my mind after reading the first wall spoilers. But I completely agree with you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5432422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 and a new Black Templars unit when "the scouring" Shows the secound founding.^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5432923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 I mean my majn reason is accept any challenge is only one of our 4 vows not in rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5432927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 it will come with the new Emperors Champion and extra Stratagems / vows / Relics for him (like the new Stratagems for the Master of Sanctinity, the Chief Librarian,...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5432936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 and a new Black Templars unit when "the scouring" Shows the secound founding.^^ Considering next year's focus is the Night Lords Vs Dark Angels, (which was really early days in the Heresy,) I think the Scouring is a while off! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5432937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 would fit perfect into my interpetation of how GW will work for now. But honestly A emperors Champion could find the way in each book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5432941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 honestly, the minute a cqc primaris unit is created I see a PDF Faq going out for templars Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5432945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) I think something IS in store for Templars, but not within a close time frame. Edition hop seems likely next summer, and I wouldn't hold my breath for us being first out the gate when that happens either. They could release an EC along with Sigismund becoming the EC in the siege books. That possibility came to my mind after reading the first wall spoilers. But I completely agree with you. I know its an old thread but this give me thinking: - Our supplement has no normal Special Issue Wargear - and so we are finally the only one chapter completely without it after the Deathwatch get their (already confirmed) codex. And we are the most well known secound founding chapter but all other chapter can have that... - ADB is writing the last Black Legion book (where BT expect to have a huge part in it) and one of the siege of terra books ( i expect he is writing the part of Sigismunds main part as he kicks ass) in addition to the Spear of the Emperors second book where BT are also in. - GW doing nothing without a reason --> Ships we saw in the first PA trailers + the marines in the back in the last trailer + Castellan Dracos role in the IF Supplement (maybe it is connected with Spears of the emperor where the force had to face the Inquisition as an enemy. - A box set with knightly looking marines - the feeling that a lot of people want more for BT - the result from the last survey is still hidden by GW. and BTW, like Schlitzaf already said that the last VOW (the most beloved) is not part of the current rules and there was a rumor about a new emperors champion. And SETE said "not before june 2020" ( I know that there are many things that can be argued against each of this points) Edited July 2, 2020 by Medjugorje Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5553384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) Just to clear up, that im working on assumptions, I dont know anything. I knew of the new edition and necrons after, but did not knew about deathwatch codex. Let's see how the last quarter treats us. I do not want to believe that GW will leave us hanging up to 2021. Just to add that if we see DA, SW or BA codex coming in after DW, well it will be bad news for us. Edited July 2, 2020 by Sete Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5553396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Well, I'd say the new bikes are the new best CC unit. 6 attacks per model, fastest speed, T5, what's not to love. Here's hoping they can be in squads of 6! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5553411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) Well, I'd say the new bikes are the new best CC unit. 6 attacks per model, fastest speed, T5, what's not to love. Here's hoping they can be in squads of 6! I think they already said they will be up to 9 in a stream last weak. Dont forget that you can field Bikes far better with WS or DA (what should be okay and I really dont have a problem with that fact) Thats the problem. Each unit in the space marine codex is still better fielded with other chapters because they are way better then. I have absolutley no problems with that as long as BT have units which have that property too. But in this edition our most important units lost their 3++ (company veterans) and i am not sure if intercessors in impulsors are really worth it in new edition because they are really really expensive. Just from a game perspective its important that each subfraction should have a few units which interact better with a special chapter tactic. For BT it could be: Chaplain: ( each other chapter have one more core litany to speak in addition to the normal table - we have to decide which table and except one relic and a special character (who doesnt speak litanies easier) i dont think they are far better in our lists Vanguard Veterans: (they are very good but as WS and BA are still better which is okay for BA because they should be with jump packs but scars should be on bikes instead) Company Veterans: (no quesition - they are although BA could have them with 5+++ too) choppy intercessors: we will see bladeguard: (I think BA will be far greater with them) bladeguard captain : (he already has an better BT core rule for all other chapters typical GW) Edited July 2, 2020 by Medjugorje Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5553444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 This is an old thread and we don't need to be talking about 9th and the new units in two places. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360059-bring-reasons-to-hope/#findComment-5553451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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