Subtleknife Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Hello, I was wondering if anyone can help. I played my Primaris Ultras against my mates Tau and got mulched hard. I was wondering if I could get any tips for combating the Tau. My main plan was target the drones with any damage 1 weapons and the multi damage at the battle suits. Tigurius was casting -1 to hit and plus 1 toughness onto the executioner. I couldnt chew through the drones quick enough or they were kept out of LoS so I could not really touch the battle suits. My list is: ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [86 PL, -2CP, 1,739pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Ultramarines + HQ + Chapter Master in Phobos Armor [5 PL, -2CP, 99pts]: 6. Marksman's Honors, Adept of the Codex, Camo cloak, Master-crafted instigator bolt carbine, Stratagem: Chapter Master, The Vox Espiritum, Warlord Chief Librarian Tigurius [7 PL, 130pts]: 2) Might of Heroes, 4) Psychic Scourge + Troops + Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 95pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle . 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 95pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle . 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 146pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle . 7x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist + Elites + Invictor Tactical Warsuit [6 PL, 136pts]: Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy bolter, 2x Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Twin ironhail autocannon Invictor Tactical Warsuit [6 PL, 136pts]: Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy bolter, 2x Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Twin ironhail autocannon + Heavy Support + Eliminator Squad [4 PL, 72pts] . Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle, Camo cloak . 2x Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: 2x Bolt sniper rifle, 2x Camo cloak Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Plasma incinerator . 4x Hellblaster . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol Repulsor Executioner [15 PL, 336pts]: 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy Laser Destroyer, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 2x Storm bolter, Twin Heavy Bolter, Twin Icarus Ironhail Heavy Stubber + Dedicated Transport + Repulsor [15 PL, 329pts]: 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers, 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 2x Krakstorm Grenade Launcher, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Storm bolter, Twin lascannon ++ Total: [86 PL, -2CP, 1,739pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe He played 3 units of fire warriors, 3 riptides (2 burst cannon and 1 anti vehicle) all had shield drones. He had a unit of path finders with the rail rifles. Cadre fire blade and dark strider. Ghost keel with two stealth drones. A squad or two of market light drones. And one commander suit with fusion blasters. He ran 2 battalions I think. I couldnt outshoot him nor could I get into cc. We did have a lot of los blocking terrain but his suits just flew around the place. I found the 2 tactical warsuits got mulched turn 1 twice but I dont think my army has enough cc to back them up so I may think about dropping them. The snipers did work for a turn as it meant he had to hide his characters. Any help will be appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I have found the warsuits rather underwhelming. If you drop both you can take a Captain and two TFC as a Spearhead Detachment by moving one of your existing heavy support choices over... plus you’ll get another CP. These will put a lot of pressure on the Fire Warriors and drones. How are your Grav Tanks faring against Tau ? Subtleknife 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5433316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Ok but due to not having any invun the non buffed one is gone after a turn and then the buffed one by tigurius takes another turn maybe 2 or lucky to get wiped out. I dont even get through one riptide due to the shield drones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5433341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspecti Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Use a TFC / Whirlwind to shoot the shield drones? Take the Seal of Oath on the TFC Techmarine and pick the largest shield drone unit as the target, or one of the Riptides. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5433356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 I was trying to avoid normal marines if at all possible as whilst I like the units I dont like them when next to the primaris models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5433363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) Ok but due to not having any invun the non buffed one is gone after a turn and then the buffed one by tigurius takes another turn maybe 2 or lucky to get wiped out. I dont even get through one riptide due to the shield drones. That’s a lot of points in two units that don’t make it past the second turn while his RTs keep plinking away. Maybe swap them out for Inceptors and Suppressors you can deep strike. I don’t rate the WW because it has a large foot print and is harder to hide plus lower rate of fire than the TFC. Edited November 24, 2019 by Black Blow Fly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5433396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L30n1d4s Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Have you considered 5 Boltstorm Aggressors... with the Stratagem to put them on Tactical Doctrine turn 1 they can disembark 3" from your Repulsor, move 5", and then shoot twice at 18" for an average of 90 x S4 AP-1 shots... with Chapter Master rerolls, you should get about 80 hits, 40 wounds on T4 Drones, and 20 dead Shield Drones a turn? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5433486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L30n1d4s Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Have you considered 5 Boltstorm Aggressors... with the Stratagem to put them on Tactical Doctrine turn 1 they can disembark 3" from your Repulsor, move 5", and then shoot twice at 18" for an average of 90 x S4 AP-1 shots... with Chapter Master rerolls, you should get about 80 hits, 40 wounds on T4 Drones, and 20 dead Shield Drones a turn? Frater Cornelius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5433495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Yeah I did think about that but all his drones were hidden so I cant see them at all. Only thing I can think about is mass drop of plasma inceptors turn 2. And potentially have to break my non primaris rule and use thunder fire cannons in turn one to remove drones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5433542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 TFCs are really good... it could be a game changer. I have mostly Primaris units, there’s no reason to go 100 percent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5433550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperorpants Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I'm going to have to echo what alot of people are saying already: Thunderfire cannon is the way to go. Maybe a whirlwind as well if you really really need it. Subtleknife 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5433854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 Seems I may need to buy some TFC and convert the techmarine into a primaris one. emperorpants and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5433864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 GW has the Iron Father for ya. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5434461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 Yeah but I am banking primaris techmarine not being in gravis when the time comes...its a gamble because it is a sweet model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5434470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Good luck bruvha. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360118-help-against-tau/#findComment-5434531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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