Prot Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Hey folks, Since no one seems to want to do this, I thought we could benefit from the rumoured changes to points. What I've done is taken my own research, and then a friend of mine over the pond in the U.K. has graciously shared a data sheet with me of all the points he's noted. Please note this mostly compiled in a video from D6 Evolutions discussing the changes. For screenshots of points or detailed conversation, please see the video below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiKk117xLoo&t=954s In the meantime here are the units and point changes. Special thanks to Wes for doing all this work! Autarch with Swooping Hawk Wings 80 85 -5 Crimson Hunter 125 120 5 Crimson Hunter Exarch 150 135 15 Dark Reaper 9 12 -3 Falcon 100 110 -10 Fire Dragon 8 10 -2 Fire Prisim 140 155 -15 Howling Banshee 7 9 -2 Shining Spears 20 24 -4 Spiritseer 55 65 -10 Striking Scorpion 8 10 -2 Vypers 35 40 -5 War Walker 35 40 -5 Warlock 45 55 -10 Warlock Conclave 35 45 -10 Warlock Skyrunner 60 65 -5 Warlock Skyrunner Conclave 48 60 -12 Warp Spiders 9 10 -1 Wraithknight 285 315 -30 Wraithlord 80 85 -5 Asurman 150 175 -25 Eldrad Ulthran 145 135 10 Fuegan 125 140 -15 Illic Nightspear 65 80 -15 Biting Blade 2 5 -3 Ghostaxe 4 9 -5 Paragon Sabre 6 8 -2 Star Glaive 6 6 Forceshield 2 6 -4 Scattershield 15 30 -15 Shimmershield 5 5 D-Cannon 35 45 -10 D-Scythe 14 20 -6 Twin Aeldari Middle Launcher 35 40 -5 Twin Bright Lance 35 40 -5 Vibro Cannon 10 15 -5 Warithcannon 10 15 -5 Sorry for any inaccuracies. I had to convert it from Apple Numbers to an Excel then I decided to colour code it so I may have goofed some things up along the way. -edit- fixed formatting. Edited December 3, 2019 by Prot Slasher956 and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Quite a few points drops then. What effect do you see this having? More Wraith units on the table? People buying the Banshees that have coincidentally just been re-released? ;) Gotta admit, kinda regretting that I sold all of my Eldar earlier this year... :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5440362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) With the wraithguard points drops I may be able to squeeze an additional 1-2 models on the board at 2k. Honestly, these CA point mods don’t make me think I can better tune my current lists or build something different. They’re more “I can buy this upgrade” for me. Maybe because I do t play ITC that I think 50-100 points less cost means much. Edited December 3, 2019 by The Blood Raven Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5440383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emicus Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 My 1500 list has gone down 20 points.. Hardly enough to do anything, but I suppose it means the units are doing well? Big winners are axe guard who might finally be worth putting on the table, going from astronomic cost to merely LOW numbers. Talking about LOW, wraith knight is slowly paying off its sins from 7th and becoming a good runner up. Cannon load out dropping *50* points and any shield variant dropping 45. Sadly I still think it's too much as the sword is pointless, sun cannon is terrible (just make it an avenger gatling already!) and d cannons have no survivability. If you cost as much as a knight and shoot worse or die easier, get off the field. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5440457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Krash Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Wow Wraithknight went down again thats interesting Krash Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5440468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I agree with above. These drops aren't making any fundamental changes. Just a few upgrades here and there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5440639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) Bonesingers are now 55 I believe, at least I'm pretty certain that's what I heard listening to a CA review. Edited December 5, 2019 by Montford Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5441404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Bonesingers are now 55 I believe, at least I'm pretty certain that's what I heard listening to a CA review. nope... bonesingers are now LEGENDS... and are forever more 70 points :( https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/84d4072d.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5441513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 That really stinks. Such a cool model, and a rare repair feature for the army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5441785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emicus Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 A model you cannot buy is surely the ultimate legend :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5441839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 A friend of mine was telling me the Hemlock Wraithfighter went down 20 points. I can't see it, unless the discount resides in some wargear/weapons or something I'm missing. Is anyone aware of this? (of course I just bought one too.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5443890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Bonesingers are now 55 I believe, at least I'm pretty certain that's what I heard listening to a CA review. nope... bonesingers are now LEGENDS... and are forever more 70 points https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/84d4072d.pdf Better check the Munitorium Field Manual -- Craftworlds > Named Characters > Bonesinger 55 points including wargear. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5457432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Bonesingers are now 55 I believe, at least I'm pretty certain that's what I heard listening to a CA review. nope... bonesingers are now LEGENDS... and are forever more 70 points https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/84d4072d.pdf Better check the Munitorium Field Manual -- Craftworlds > Named Characters > Bonesinger 55 points including wargear. GW how can you up so much your own paperwork! I mean bonesingers & sisters gemenia ..... So that leads to the question - what take prioity ? CA or Ledgends? Edited January 7, 2020 by Slasher956 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5457436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Personally I'm going with Chapter Approved! The Legends FAQ came out before CA 2019 hit, therefore CA 2019 is the most recent. Edited January 7, 2020 by Montford Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5457870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Just a note to update the question of the Bonesinger: no correction was made in the CA 2019 FAQ which came out in February. Bonesingers are still fieldable ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360314-craftworlds-point-changes-ca-2019/#findComment-5502072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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