Zustiur Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Yeah i was thinking about it as well :) Land Raider Crusader >>> Asmodai (and lieutenant ?) >>> DW Ancient and Champion (or Apothecary ?) >>> DW Knights Used to be 800pts, now it's 650. it came out to 715 for me.Crusader 264 Asmodai 110 DW Knights 175 DW Champion 90 DW Ancient 76 I'm not sure how you got 650. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360432-what-will-be-your-favorite-vanilla-litany/page/2/#findComment-5445957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Elijah Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Yeah i was thinking about it as well Land Raider Crusader >>> Asmodai (and lieutenant ?) >>> DW Ancient and Champion (or Apothecary ?) >>> DW Knights Used to be 800pts, now it's 650. it came out to 715 for me.Crusader 264 Asmodai 110 DW Knights 175 DW Champion 90 DW Ancient 76 I'm not sure how you got 650. Hmm i did the maths without Battle Scribe because he wasn't updated yet. Maybe i forgot the Ancient, i don't know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360432-what-will-be-your-favorite-vanilla-litany/page/2/#findComment-5446026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellunder Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 So asmodai in a land raider is tempting BUT you have to recite litanies at the start of the battle round. At that point he will be embarked in the LR and my guess is that he can’t recite any litany in the same manner as you can’t use psychic power and other abilities. So my best bet is still the jump pack chaplain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360432-what-will-be-your-favorite-vanilla-litany/page/2/#findComment-5446331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Elijah Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 With the nerf to Thunder Hammer and our incoming Litanies, here's a suggestion for a build : Interrogator Chaplain = Jump Pack, Warlord & Master of Maneuver, Mace of Redemption, Mantra of Strength & Canticle of Hate = 99pts (yeah right under 100pts !) Defensively he got 5W T4 3+ & 4++ Offensively (Mantra of Strength) he got 4 Attacks (5 on the charge) hit on 2+ (full reroll) S8 AP-3 Dmg D3+1 Speaking of charge he got a 6'' bubble reroll advance/charge (Master of Maneuver) AND +2'' to charge +3'' to consolidate (Canticle of Hate) Basically a unit deep striking near him will do their 9'' charge ON AVERAGE and you can reroll (75% rate of success) And let's not forget the To-Hit full reroll bubble, the -1LD bubble and his Spiritual Leader rule It's time to convert that Jump Pack BA Chaplain ! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360432-what-will-be-your-favorite-vanilla-litany/page/2/#findComment-5446656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Artorias Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I can't find anything that says the Chaplain must be on the board at the start of the battle round, in order to recite a litany. Have I missed it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360432-what-will-be-your-favorite-vanilla-litany/page/2/#findComment-5448192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G8Keeper Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I can't find anything that says the Chaplain must be on the board at the start of the battle round, in order to recite a litany. Have I missed it? I believe the Litany is uttered at the start of the battle round but reserves come down at the end of the movement phase??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360432-what-will-be-your-favorite-vanilla-litany/page/2/#findComment-5448268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isual Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I can't find anything that says the Chaplain must be on the board at the start of the battle round, in order to recite a litany. Have I missed it? You "cast" your litany at the start of the battle round, models not on the table can't act. At least its the ruling for psy abilities, techmarines and auras. I would be pretty supprised if GW would choose to rule this one different. Even if its not impossilbe, they work in mysterious ways. Hellunder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360432-what-will-be-your-favorite-vanilla-litany/page/2/#findComment-5448439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Elijah Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I can't find anything that says the Chaplain must be on the board at the start of the battle round, in order to recite a litany. Have I missed it? I believe the Litany is uttered at the start of the battle round but reserves come down at the end of the movement phase??? Yes. So you can cast Canticle of Hate with a Chaplain already on the table and Deep Striking units will benefit from it because it's a bubble, not a "target this unit". Hellunder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360432-what-will-be-your-favorite-vanilla-litany/page/2/#findComment-5448471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hantheman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 +1 to wound for sure. Cast on a dark talon. Dark talon flies next what it wants to die. Easy. Hellunder and G8Keeper 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360432-what-will-be-your-favorite-vanilla-litany/page/2/#findComment-5448714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellunder Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 +1 to wound for sure. Cast on a dark talon. Dark talon flies next what it wants to die. Easy. Ohh that's a nice one! With the nerf to Thunder Hammer and our incoming Litanies, here's a suggestion for a build : Interrogator Chaplain = Jump Pack, Warlord & Master of Maneuver, Mace of Redemption, Mantra of Strength & Canticle of Hate = 99pts (yeah right under 100pts !) Defensively he got 5W T4 3+ & 4++ Offensively (Mantra of Strength) he got 4 Attacks (5 on the charge) hit on 2+ (full reroll) S8 AP-3 Dmg D3+1 Speaking of charge he got a 6'' bubble reroll advance/charge (Master of Maneuver) AND +2'' to charge +3'' to consolidate (Canticle of Hate) Basically a unit deep striking near him will do their 9'' charge ON AVERAGE and you can reroll (75% rate of success) And let's not forget the To-Hit full reroll bubble, the -1LD bubble and his Spiritual Leader rule It's time to convert that Jump Pack BA Chaplain ! As for now Astorath is the only chaplain that can recite two litanies, maybe we get something similar though... I can't find anything that says the Chaplain must be on the board at the start of the battle round, in order to recite a litany. Have I missed it? I believe the Litany is uttered at the start of the battle round but reserves come down at the end of the movement phase??? This was in the context Asmodai in a Land raider, which I think doesn't work well with litanies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360432-what-will-be-your-favorite-vanilla-litany/page/2/#findComment-5449679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Elijah Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 With the nerf to Thunder Hammer and our incoming Litanies, here's a suggestion for a build : Interrogator Chaplain = Jump Pack, Warlord & Master of Maneuver, Mace of Redemption, Mantra of Strength & Canticle of Hate = 99pts (yeah right under 100pts !) Defensively he got 5W T4 3+ & 4++ Offensively (Mantra of Strength) he got 4 Attacks (5 on the charge) hit on 2+ (full reroll) S8 AP-3 Dmg D3+1 Speaking of charge he got a 6'' bubble reroll advance/charge (Master of Maneuver) AND +2'' to charge +3'' to consolidate (Canticle of Hate) Basically a unit deep striking near him will do their 9'' charge ON AVERAGE and you can reroll (75% rate of success) And let's not forget the To-Hit full reroll bubble, the -1LD bubble and his Spiritual Leader rule It's time to convert that Jump Pack BA Chaplain ! As for now Astorath is the only chaplain that can recite two litanies, maybe we get something similar though... One of the few things i'm eager to see in PA4 is the updated Asmodai Hellunder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/360432-what-will-be-your-favorite-vanilla-litany/page/2/#findComment-5449684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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